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Old 06-04-2010, 06:42 AM   #16
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If he fight and beats Darchinyan again... then I would consider it fair
I don't know, brother. I mean to me, it'd just be proving he could beat an older shopworn version of a guy he totally dominated and knocked out already? I don't see how that's honestly worthy of the ranking of four. If Mosley beats the shit out of Margo again, it wouldn't impress me all that much either though.
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:30 AM   #17
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:51 AM   #18
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Eastside Boxing P4P Top 10

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
3. Chad Dawson
4. Paul Williams
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Wladamir Klitscko
8. Shane Mosley
9. Nonito Donaire
10. Tim Bradley
Shane ****ing Mosely is on here lossing 2wice in the four fights
or 4 times in his last eleven . or 6 in 15 fights
why ? americas sweet heart maybe
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:04 AM   #19
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how are williams and Dawson higher than Wlad?
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:39 AM   #20
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Yes you're right, see it now... English is only my second language
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:03 AM   #21
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Shane ****ing Mosely is on here lossing 2wice in the four fights
or 4 times in his last eleven . or 6 in 15 fights
why ? americas sweet heart maybe

Nostalgia maybe.. i dont know
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:11 AM   #22
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Wlad is definitely top 5 and could easily be placed at 3 or 4.
Who is above him? Chad Dawson? Based on what? Beating Tarver and Johnson 2 times each?
The only two more deserving fighters are Pacquiao and Mayweather. The only reason everyone doesn't have Wlad at 3 is because of some myth that HW's can't be in the P4P rankings.
Agree with this.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:16 AM   #23
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No one who knows the sport or boxrec takes their p4p ratings seriously. It's not a thought out list, it's just a number crunching, no context, points system list for everything. I wish people would stop doing threads about how crazy their ratings are. It's not like a panel of people are voting on it. It means nothing. The site is a great reference but that's as far as it goes.

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Old 06-04-2010, 11:22 AM   #24
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I think he should be top 10 by now, no doubt if he was American he'd be in the Rings' top 10. I don't see how beating Vic Darchinycan and little else makes Nonito Donaire the fourth best fighter in the world, and beating a series of good, but not great, top 10 rated contenders doesn't get Wladimir a spot.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:41 AM   #25
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Klits are the texbook definition of boxers NOT deserving of p4p recognition.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:42 AM   #26
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Shane ****ing Mosely is on here lossing 2wice in the four fights
or 4 times in his last eleven . or 6 in 15 fights
why ? americas sweet heart maybe
the P4P was done using a rankings poll. 129 forum members voted.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:01 PM   #27
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Klits are the texbook definition of boxers NOT deserving of p4p recognition.
So if dominating a division doesn't count...what does? P4P is serioulsy flawed if the idea is to compare technical skills and speed and just leave out size. Being big is a disadvantage when it comes to fluid movement, no wolrd class gymnast or dancer will ever be as big as the Klitschkos. They beat everyone in fron of them, no mandatory has come close to having a chance of beating them, how many boxers currently can say that about themselves?
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:10 PM   #28
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I don't know, brother. I mean to me, it'd just be proving he could beat an older shopworn version of a guy he totally dominated and knocked out already? I don't see how that's honestly worthy of the ranking of four. If Mosley beats the shit out of Margo again, it wouldn't impress me all that much either though.
Fair enough... but hasn't Darchinyan improved over the years. I thought he was even P4P number 8 for a while before he tried to move up (and got beaten)...
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:38 PM   #29
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Wlad clearly belongs in the top 10 P4P, he's one of the most dominate champions out there and his ability has never been denied.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:52 PM   #30
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Klits are the texbook definition of boxers NOT deserving of p4p recognition.
Where does one find this textbook?
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