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Old 12-05-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
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Default Pavlik would be beaten by Williams or Martinez!

Problem is they probably just took a lot of **** out of each other, and will do so even more if they fight again.

I had the fight a draw by-the-way. Both are great fighters. I admit I didn't think Martinez was that good.

People are dumb if they think this fight doesn't mean Williams is an excellent fighter.

Both are damn good.

Edit: One more thing! Are Williams fan's still going to tell me he kicks Mayweather or Mosely's ass?
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:35 PM   #2
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Williams gets KTFO. The reason he stayed competitive with Martinez is because of his height and reach and because he has a decent enough chin and Martinez is sort of a light puncher.

This allowed him to dodge some shots purely on height while moving his torso back. His reach allowed him to get back at the slick Martinez. Pavlik, although one dimensional (as is Williams) is William's size and is a power puncher. I really want to see WIlliams in with a power puncher that is his size. With that defense he has, I don't know how he'll deal with them.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:36 PM   #3
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Default Re: Pavlik would be beaten by Williams or Martinez!

Pavlik has sledgehammers. I think Martinez may give Pavlik a harder time than PWill.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:36 PM   #4
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Pavlik ****s up Williams, I can see Martinez causing problems but losing a Decision or late tko to Pavlik
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:37 PM   #5
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Default Re: Pavlik would be beaten by Williams or Martinez!

what you're missing is that PAvlik has more power than williams and martinez combined. if pavlik landed some of those shots martinez did he heeda ktfo williams
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:37 PM   #6
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Pavlic by murder!!!! And i was picking Williams to win initially...
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:40 PM   #7
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Now dont compare Pavlik's power with Martinez or Williams. If Pavlik landed his punch the same way both Williams and Martinez did to each other, i dont think they'd still be standing.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:41 PM   #8
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pavlik would kill both of them

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Old 12-05-2009, 11:41 PM   #9
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Default Re: Pavlik would be beaten by Williams or Martinez!

Pavlik may had power but could he handle what was coming back at him is the question. Keep in mind either of these guys had time to really get ready for one another. I knew that the Pavlik fans would jump on this, but the fact remains wasnt Pavlik suppose to fight tonight??? Were was he??? Didnt Arum Say that he was going to fight AA??? What happened??? Here is two top fighters fighting eachother and Pavlik is fighting yet another bum in a long list of bums that he has fought thoughout his career.

You chumps need to stop tring to give that guy credit for what others are doing, could have would have...Some one text Pavlik and tell him to find a sack and do it
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:42 PM   #10
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Both could possibly. Martinez moves alot and would find pavlik, but i don't think he would hurt kelly. Kelly's punches could very well have more effect
on martinez and williams. Also, pavlik throws alot of punches to. These guys might not need pavlik either now that they have each other.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:43 PM   #11
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Pavlic by murder!!!! And i was picking Williams to win initially...
Yep!!
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:45 PM   #12
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Pavlik is way too SLOW to land like these guys land on each other. They land because they are very skilled. The Ghost...is not.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:45 PM   #13
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Default Re: Pavlik would be beaten by Williams or Martinez!

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Williams gets KTFO. The reason he stayed competitive with Martinez is because of his height and reach and because he has a decent enough chin and Martinez is sort of a light puncher.
I half way agree with this. I don't think PWill gets KTFO 100%, I think there's a chance of that happening if Kelly lands. And that's a big "if", b/c Kelly is nowhere near as fast as Martinez. Not to mention nowhere near as hungry.

That being said, PWill doens't have the power at 154-160 to KO top guys like Pavlik. And he's NEVER faced a guy as big and strong as him. The first big punch that Kelly lands he'll be on ***** street.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:46 PM   #14
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Pavlik may had power but could he handle what was coming back at him is the question.
No offense but that's a dumb question.

If he took flush bombs from Taylor at 160 and Hopkins at 175 he'll take Paul's best shot anyday. Ditto for Martinez.


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I half way agree with this. I don't think PWill gets KTFO 100%, I think there's a chance of that happening if Kelly lands. And that's a big "if", b/c Kelly is nowhere near as fast as Martinez. Not to mention nowhere near as hungry.
And Margarito is fast?

Paul is not a hard target. Pavlik finds him. Pavlik knocks him out. I'd like to see the fight but just saying.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:47 PM   #15
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Both of these two are way too fast and unorthodox for Pavlik. He gets slaughtered.
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