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Old 06-09-2010, 08:46 PM   #16
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So let people watch a replay the next day too, or for the following week. Have people sign up for the year, loads would go for that. You could throw in some of their back catalog of fights, legendary nights, that sort of thing, sweeten the deal.

Still very, very small market compared to the ones they move in. I just don't think we are even on their radar or ever likely to be TBH.

The best bet IMHO is someone like Primetime, a small company who is happy with those sort of revenues/ profits, acting as an intermediate and buying the UK rights off the promoters.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:10 PM   #17
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So let people watch a replay the next day too, or for the following week. Have people sign up for the year, loads would go for that. You could throw in some of their back catalog of fights, legendary nights, that sort of thing, sweeten the deal.
I like this idea. I'd happily pay a decent amount per year to get all the fights live and on demand. How can they lose out? How much does it cost to put up a stream online of the fight live, and then archive it or something so people can rewatch it? I'd happily pay out 5 per fight for that. Surely a couple hundred thousand would too? Or is that optimism as it's best? How many views did Pac-Clottey / Mayweather-JMM / Mosley live on SS get here?
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:26 PM   #18
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I like this idea. I'd happily pay a decent amount per year to get all the fights live and on demand. How can they lose out? How much does it cost to put up a stream online of the fight live, and then archive it or something so people can rewatch it? I'd happily pay out 5 per fight for that. Surely a couple hundred thousand would too? Or is that optimism as it's best? How many views did Pac-Clottey / Mayweather-JMM / Mosley live on SS get here?
couple of hundred thousand? you'd be lucky with a few thousand.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:46 PM   #19
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couple of hundred thousand? you'd be lucky with a few thousand.
unfortunately, your correct
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:32 AM   #20
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It can't do any harm.

If it prompts one of Arums employees to pick up the phone to ESPN UK (who have a new boss by the way) to say "you can have this fight and that fight live for x if you want it", then it is a worthwhile exercise

As others have noted, in the summer months with no prem football, ESPN is not a great product for the majority of the UK
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:50 AM   #21
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nobody come out with any negative comments on this thread. your either on board or **** off to a thread about Fraudley Harrison


Rob ,im seeing you in a new light.


ive sent emails to goosen tutor,don king and GB .
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:51 AM   #22
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If it prompts one of Arums employees to pick up the phone to ESPN UK (who have a new boss by the way) to say "you can have this fight and that fight live for x if you want it", then it is a worthwhile exercise
If Arum's sales staff can't work that out for themselves, then I'm not sure the chances of them figuring out how to open your email are that great.
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:54 AM   #23
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Even HBO and Showtime could allow us to sign up online to watch fights.
Why would HBO or Showtime buy the UK rights that none of the existing UK sports broadcasters think worth buying, and then go to the extra expense of setting up a new broadcast medium to show them?
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Old 06-10-2010, 05:04 AM   #24
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Why would HBO or Showtime buy the UK rights that none of the existing UK sports broadcasters think worth buying, and then go to the extra expense of setting up a new broadcast medium to show them?
No I'm suggesting they provide a service which can be bought by everybody outside of North America. Surely the rest of the world has a decent enough boxing audience to make a bit of money off World Title fights.

If any country has a broadcaster which already shows the fights themselves, then just block out that country also.

Hasn't Don King done something like this for some of his fights?
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:02 AM   #25
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:06 AM   #26
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Not sure how it's illegal to download them if essentially no-one owns the rights in the UK. I guess rights reisde with the host promoter, but then they aren't losing out. Possibly illegal from the point of view of the broadcaster as you're watching their show, but do they care if you're outside where they broadcast?

Not sure really what your point is here, are you saying Bob Arum doesn't even try to sell international rights for his fights. Because I'm pretty sure he does.
it is ilegal because they can sell the replays of the fights at a later date.

I am saying they don't put enough effort in or search for other ways if Sky don't want to pay.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:06 AM   #27
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Your messaging the wrong people, do you think us promoters aren't selling their fight to the uk? Message sky, primtime, espn even the bbc if you've got nothing else to do.
we have tried that many times before. there not intrested. the message has to go to the promoters.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:07 AM   #28
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I'd guess the problem for Showtime and HBO is could they be arsed setting streams up for the money it would generate? We're not exactly big business esp. at 4am.
HBO and Showtime dont own the international rights.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:09 AM   #29
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Still very, very small market compared to the ones they move in. I just don't think we are even on their radar or ever likely to be TBH.

The best bet IMHO is someone like Primetime, a small company who is happy with those sort of revenues/ profits, acting as an intermediate and buying the UK rights off the promoters.
but there must be something about it the promoters dont like. they have not shown a fight card from a major US promoter listed that wasnt part of the Super 6. The UK rights for the super 6 are owned by Hennesey.

I am sure there have reached out to King, Goldenboy and so on, maybe they dont wanna piss sky off.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:16 AM   #30
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Hmmm... what's Schaefer going to do? The UK networks just aren't interested in boxing. Simple as that. Bombard the BBC, Five and ITV. As terrestrial channels they could make a huge difference to the sport.

It's the complexity of negotiating individual fights that causes the problem. Remember Cotto-Jennings? Nearly off Setanta because ****** owned the TV rights in the UK, despite Top Rank's deal with the channel.

If there was a single body that controlled the sport, like FIFA or the SPL or the Premiership - it'd be easy. But it isn't.
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