Does Anyone Here Really Think Anyone at 147lbs Beats Sugar Ray Robinson

[acb]

Originally Posted by john garfield

Hearns at his best would be a problem for any welter. His Achiles Heel was durability. In a firefight with SRR, Tommy wouldn't last.

John if you have time, could you compare him to SRL, Roy Jones Jr, and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Its rare to get to talk to someone who has seen all of these fighters.

Thanks.

[john garfield]

Originally Posted by acb

John if you have time, could you compare him to SRL, Roy Jones Jr, and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Its rare to get to talk to someone who has seen all of these fighters.

Thanks.

Leonard was most like Robinson: Smooth movement around the ring, picture-book punches, a flare for the dramatic, blazing hand speed and flashy combinations, but they didn’t carry Robinson’s authority, and he was less durable.

As for Jones, we can’t compare them at welter. Roy never fought pro at that weight. But, style for style, RJ’s unique – a performance artist – all instincts, reflexes and athleticism. His combinations were blinding, but not as fully extended as Robinson’s. His weakness was durability, too. But, for as long as it lasted, he’d give SRR fits.

Mayweather is like the Tiger Woods of the ring – born to box – a prodigy. But as brilliant as he is, his temperament is about winning – looking pretty. Sugar always looked pretty, but he was a killer from the opening bell.

[Rock0052]

Thanks for your take on it John, it's much appreciated

[Rock0052]

Originally Posted by Arthur

Carmen Basilio might of beat him at 147. Basilio WAS a 147 fighter that moved up to 160 just to fight SRR and beat him once, and many feel twice (including all of press row at the second fight).

Nice choice....Basilio's a name nobody else mentioned, but he seemed to be to Robinson what Sadler was to Pep. He probably would've been a foil to Robinson at whatever weight they fought at, even if he didn't get the W.

[Expert]

Originally Posted by Arthur

Carmen Basilio might of beat him at 147. Basilio WAS a 147 fighter that moved up to 160 just to fight SRR and beat him once, and many feel twice (including all of press row at the second fight).

this is a very good post.

[Expert]

Originally Posted by acb

By the way, thats awesome that you saw SRR fight live!

yes

[Danny Ocean]

i think if the 2 sugar rays fought 3 times leonard would win a least 1nce

[acb]

Originally Posted by john garfield

Leonard was most like Robinson: Smooth movement around the ring, picture-book punches, a flare for the dramatic, blazing hand speed and flashy combinations, but they didn’t carry Robinson’s authority, and he was less durable.

As for Jones, we can’t compare them at welter. Roy never fought pro at that weight. But, style for style, RJ’s unique – a performance artist – all instincts, reflexes and athleticism. His combinations were blinding, but not as fully extended as Robinson’s. His weakness was durability, too. But, for as long as it lasted, he’d give SRR fits.

Mayweather is like the Tiger Woods of the ring – born to box – a prodigy. But as brilliant as he is, his temperament is about winning – looking pretty. Sugar always looked pretty, but he was a killer from the opening bell.

Man this is a wonderful post! Thanks for taking the time to answer! I think your descriptions are right on!