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Old 06-16-2010, 05:52 PM   #16
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agree those cruiser were just fat light heavys. these days we have legit cruisers.
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:53 PM   #17
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The gulf between 93's Heavy's and todays is huge!
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:54 PM   #18
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Ok, light heavies

1) Virgil Hill (us) WBA
2) Henry Maske (Ger) IBF
3) Jeff Harding (Aus) WBC
4) Leonzer Barber (us) WBO
5) Prince Charles Williams
6) Frank Tate (us)
7) Mike McCallum (jam)
Fabrice Tiozza (france)
9) David Vedder (us)
10) Ernie Magdelano (us)

Versus

ESB World Champion: Chad Dawson (Beat Glen Johnson November 2009)
1. Jean Pascal
2. Zsolt Eredi
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Glen Johnson
5. Tavoris Cloud
6. Adrian Diaconu
7. Behbut Shumenov
8. Gabriel Campilo
9. Chris Henrey

Thoughts???
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:57 PM   #19
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Ok, light heavies

1) Virgil Hill (us) WBA
2) Henry Maske (Ger) IBF
3) Jeff Harding (Aus) WBC
4) Leonzer Barber (us) WBO
5) Prince Charles Williams
6) Frank Tate (us)
7) Mike McCallum (jam)
Fabrice Tiozza (france)
9) David Vedder (us)
10) Ernie Magdelano (us)

Versus

ESB World Champion: Chad Dawson (Beat Glen Johnson November 2009)
1. Jean Pascal
2. Zsolt Eredi
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Glen Johnson
5. Tavoris Cloud
6. Adrian Diaconu
7. Behbut Shumenov
8. Gabriel Campilo
9. Chris Henrey

Thoughts???
difficult as you have to count Hopkins and Johnson as they are now and not prime. there these best 2 fighters on the list overall on the list
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:58 PM   #20
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Observations thus far-

Look at the all time greats in operation in 1993

Lennox Lewis
Holyfield
Holmes
Czyz???
Mike McCallum
Maske????
Hill????

Also France have a cracking set of fighters in the top 3 divisions Tafer, Wamba and Tiozza.

Also note thus far we (the UK) have 2 fighters in the top ten out of a possible 30.
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:59 PM   #21
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difficult as you have to count Hopkins and Johnson as they are now and not prime. there these best 2 fighters on the list overall on the list
ha ha true, WTF are they?
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:00 PM   #22
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1993 at Light Heavy, quite easily. Thats a solid list right down to number 7, there are a couple of 160lbers at the end of their careers but I'd still take them over their "opposing" numbers at 6-8.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:02 PM   #23
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Observations thus far-

Look at the all time greats in operation in 1993

Lennox Lewis
Holyfield
Holmes
Czyz???
Mike McCallum
Maske????
Hill????

Also France have a cracking set of fighters in the top 3 divisions Tafer, Wamba and Tiozza.

Also note thus far we (the UK) have 2 fighters in the top ten out of a possible 30.
Hill is the only ??? with a shot at being an ATG.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:02 PM   #24
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Supermiddles should be interesting....
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:03 PM   #25
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Observations thus far-

Look at the all time greats in operation in 1993

Lennox Lewis
Holyfield
Holmes
Czyz???
Mike McCallum
Maske????
Hill????

Also France have a cracking set of fighters in the top 3 divisions Tafer, Wamba and Tiozza.

Also note thus far we (the UK) have 2 fighters in the top ten out of a possible 30.
only Lewis, Holyfield, Holmes and McCallum all time greats there.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:05 PM   #26
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Hill is the only ??? with a shot at being an ATG.
For me he was! He had a lovely jab- what are your thoughts Gaz?

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Just had a look at his record, an all time great no question.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:06 PM   #27
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only Lewis, Holyfield, Holmes and McCallum all time greats there.
You need educating Bobby. Maske and Hill were fabulous fighters. Czyz too is very under-rated.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:07 PM   #28
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Hill was indeed top class.

But the loss to a faded/shot Hearns does him no favours
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:07 PM   #29
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1993- 2
2010- 1

OK Super Middles

todays are

1. Lucian Bute
2. Andre Ward
3. Mikkell Kessler
4. Carl Froch
5. Andre Dirrell
6. Arthur Abraham
7. Sakio Bika
8. Robert Stieglitz
9. Librado Andrade
10. Allan Green

get ready for this one
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:08 PM   #30
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Supermiddles should be interesting....
Eubank, Benn, Nunn...Toney and RJJ might make the cut off? I don't like 2010's chances
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