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Old 06-18-2010, 12:50 PM   #1
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Default The importantce of being undefeated.

I think this is an intresting subject. why is the 0 so important. does it affect the amount you get paid, does it affect your legacy?

Thomas Hearns had Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler, his two biggest moments and he was stopped in both, thats what he is rememberd for and he still goes down as one of the greatest fighters of all time. Quality fights will establish the greatness of both winner and loser.

can you name an undefeated fighter that has not been accused of ducking, or there level of opposition has never been questioned?

you cannot really bring up guys like Ray Robinson and Ali becuase they were from a different time. But Pacquiao, Gatti, Lennox Lewis all has losses and they have been in the top 10 money makers of the last 15 years.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:50 PM   #2
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I think it's an ego thing more than anything.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:56 PM   #3
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can you name an undefeated fighter that has not been accused of ducking, or there level of opposition has never been questioned?
Gene Tunney?
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:09 PM   #4
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I think it's an ego thing more than anything.
This and marketing/promotion.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:13 PM   #5
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Default Re: The importantce of being undefeated.

Gaz!!!!!! Tunney wasn't undefeated!!!!! Although he definitely avenged te loss at least once

The '0' is a marketing tool IMO, and has only come to the forefrot in the last 15-20 years.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:15 PM   #6
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Default Re: The importantce of being undefeated.

What a shame Packy McFarland lost his debut. Went 90+ after that without a loss.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:21 PM   #7
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Gaz!!!!!! Tunney wasn't undefeated!!!!! Although he definitely avenged te loss at least once

The '0' is a marketing tool IMO, and has only come to the forefrot in the last 15-20 years.
****!!

I forgot about Greb (hangs his head in shame!!).
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:24 PM   #8
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And so you should
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:28 PM   #9
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And so you should
Yup, no excuses. Poor show.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:33 PM   #10
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Default Re: The importantce of being undefeated.

Who was the first person to constantly bang on about being undefeated as if it made him an ATG?

Or maybe not bang on about it.... but make it a really prominent issue?

I was going to say Leonard but it wasn't as if he avoided anyone before he got beat..... Eubank maybe
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:36 PM   #11
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I dunno.........the first time I remember it being a marketing ploy was Floyd-Hatton though. That was all about the '0'.

And Gaz, we all do it.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:44 PM   #12
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Who was the first person to constantly bang on about being undefeated as if it made him an ATG?

Or maybe not bang on about it.... but make it a really prominent issue?

I was going to say Leonard but it wasn't as if he avoided anyone before he got beat..... Eubank maybe
Leonard avoided Hagler for years
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:46 PM   #13
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Leonard avoided Hagler for years
He said BEFORE HE GOT BEAT

Which was in Montreal against one of the greatest fighters of all time
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Leonard avoided Hagler for years
By not being a middleweight and purposfully getting a detached retina!!
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:48 PM   #15
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I didn't want to blatantly come out with ''Leonard ducked Hagler'' given my reputation as a Leonard hater/Hagler fan.....

Plus there was that dodgy eye courtesy of Tommy Hearns' jab

If only that fight was 12 rounds
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