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Old 06-18-2010, 03:01 PM   #31
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Leonard had fought at 154. So that's one division.
For 1 fight and then straight back down to welter.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:03 PM   #32
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How did everyone score Leonard vs Hagler?

As daft as it sounds..... neither of them really won it - Hagler fought the wrong fight and Leonard spent 12 running around and waving to the crowd, interrupted with brief 30 second flurries here and there.

114-114
I have a card posted here somewhere, I can't remember if its 115-113 or 115-114 Leonard

BTW IIRC Leonard waved to the crowd twice in that fight.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:05 PM   #33
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It's one of those fights where you wish you could just jump through the TV

Stand southpaw!

A bit like Leonard vs Duran II - don't quit!! It's close
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:07 PM   #34
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I personally think Leonard was boxing very well in the Duran fight, winning rounds and frustrating him. Whatever the reasons, I think Leonard would've went onto win that fairly comfortably going with the ebb and flow when it finished.

Duran was fleshy compared to the first fight
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:09 PM   #35
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Leonard had shown great stamina at 147, I don't think that version of Duran would have started to get to him. It was headed for a comfortable points win for Leonard IMHO.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:09 PM   #36
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I think Leonard would have won clearly as well..... but it was a strange decision to quit.

My only thought is that Duran probably thought Leonard was being a pansy and decided he didn't want to play those sorts of games because he was a ''proper'' fighter.... when in fact it was opposite.

I bet Leonard was like that, comes across as a nice enough sort but inside a bit of a **** with one of those faces you just want to crack
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:12 PM   #37
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I think Leonard would have won clearly as well..... but it was a strange decision to quit.

My only thought is that Duran probably thought Leonard was being a pansy and decided he didn't want to play those sorts of games because he was a ''proper'' fighter.... when in fact it was opposite.

I bet Leonard was like that, comes across as a nice enough sort but inside a bit of a **** with one of those faces you just want to crack
What that Duran wasn't a 'proper fighter' (can't see you saying that mate) or that Leonard wasn't being a 'pansy' by frustrating Duran. It might just me being stoned, but being you, I must've totally misinterpreted this whole sentence. Please advise

Leonard had a million dollar smile, but like the previous Sugar Ray, was a wife beater.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:17 PM   #38
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To clarify.... Duran saw Leonard as acting like a sissy, (which is debatable) and decided that as a proper fighter himself (not debatable) he shouldn't lower himself to that sort of level.

It was easier to walk away than to go along with the charade, in his eyes..... when to everyone else it looked like a ***** move, out of embarrassment.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:18 PM   #39
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To clarify.... Duran saw Leonard as acting like a sissy, (which is debatable) and decided that as a proper fighter himself (not debatable) he shouldn't lower himself to that sort of level.

It was easier to walk away than to go along with the charade, in his eyes..... when to everyone else it looked like a ***** move, out of embarrassment.
I understand entirely.

I know, it actually made him look like what he detested. Now there are people saying Floyd could frustrate and outmanouever him, just based on that
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:23 PM   #40
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As you know I'm a Floyd fan.....

Duran is probably underestimated in a lot of areas, his defence for a pressure fighter was generally good (except against Hearns ) - and he was smart with it.....

Mayweather wouldn't fight Duran in the same way that Leonard did, though I could see Duran being made to miss quite a lot, especially early.

I'd have Mayweather beating the Leonard II version, potshotting to a UD.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:29 PM   #41
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floyds got a good 0 he,s beat a lot of very good fighters, but paqiuo, is considered a great as well, so it doesen't mean everything,people know a great fighter when they see one.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:10 PM   #42
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I think Duran would outslick, outbox and beat up Floyd.

More proven boxer (notice I didn't say fighter)

and can you imagine Floyd surviving Hands of Stone? His right hand was sharper and more accurate than Shanes, and when he had a man hurt....wow, Floyds would get annihilated.

In my opinion
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:44 PM   #43
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Floyd Mayweather would beat Duran, Floyd Mayweather is a by far better fighter.

People compare Pacman to Duran..?

Mayweather is gonna beat down and TKO Pacman..

Jeeeezzz
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:13 PM   #44
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Duran would humiliate Floyd Kool. Are you on crack. Leonard would beat him handily and so would hearns. Don't get carried away.
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:23 PM   #45
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Floyd Mayweather would beat Duran, Floyd Mayweather is a by far better fighter.

People compare Pacman to Duran..?

Mayweather is gonna beat down and TKO Pacman..

Jeeeezzz
The saddest thing is, you're no alias. Just an absolute mong with little clue about boxing.

I'd love to know how Floyd is a 'far better fighter' Kool. Ability? No. Resume? No. He hasn't even got weight jumping on Duran, who actually fought THE men in the divisions he fought in.

Let me guess 'Duran was beaten by Joppy'
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