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View Poll Results: Razor Ruddock '90 vs Evander Holyfield '90
Ruddock KO or TKO 1-5 1 2.17%
Ruddock KO or TKO 6-12 1 2.17%
Ruddock Dec 4 8.70%
Holyfield KO or TKO 1-5 0 0%
Holyfield KO or TKO 6-12 22 47.83%
Holyfield Dec 18 39.13%
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:42 AM   #31
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yes just like tyson wanted no part of foreman.
Tyson would have killed the pilsbury dough boy of the 90s.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:47 AM   #32
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Tyson would have killed the pilsbury dough boy of the 90s.
not, the sad truth is that even the old foreman 90-91 would have a great chance to knock out peak tyson(yes foreman was slow ,old, tyson was in his prime but styles make fights and foreman only need his good chin and his power to destroy tyson(and even 40 years old foreman was by far stronger than tyson), and he had it in his second career. tyson was no holyfield), holyfield 90 would humiliate ruddock always. but gerorge foreman would certainly destroy tyson.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:53 AM   #33
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If a 50 year old Holyfield beat Valuev, a prime Holyfield is TKOing Ruddock with relative ease
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not, the sad truth is that even the old foreman 90-91 would have a great chance to knock out peak tyson(yes foreman was slow ,old, tyson was in his prime but styles make fights and foreman only need his good chin and his power to destroy tyson(and even 40 years old foreman was by far stronger than tyson), and he had it in his second career. tyson was no holyfield), holyfield 90 would humiliate ruddock always. but gerorge foreman would certainly destroy tyson.
Foreman barely made it out of he Alex Stewart fight, but he would have destroyed Tyson.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:54 AM   #35
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No one really needed or wanted Ruddock in 1990. Tyson only fought him because Don King told him to. Ruddock was ducked in 1989 by Tyson. According to Montieth Illingworth's biography of Tyson, Tyson was taking Ruddock lightly for that 1989 fight, then a few weeks out from the fight he checked out the tape of Ruddock-Smith and a day or two later he called off the fight.
Ruddock was dangerous, and before he beat Dokes in 1990 his name didn't justify the risk.

The Dokes win was impressive, but Ruddock was really a one-trick pony. He tried to take you out with one punch, and it was always the left hook/left uppercut. I can't see him beating any great or very good prime fighters with that limited game plan.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:57 AM   #36
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Foreman barely made it out of he Alex Stewart fight, but he would have destroyed Tyson.
Stewart gave Holyfield a tough fight too though ....

.... but then of course you think Tyson beats Holyfield too.
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not, the sad truth is that even the old foreman 90-91 would have a great chance to knock out peak tyson(yes foreman was slow ,old, tyson was in his prime but styles make fights and foreman only need his good chin and his power to destroy tyson(and even 40 years old foreman was by far stronger than tyson), and he had it in his second career. tyson was no holyfield), holyfield 90 would humiliate ruddock always. but gerorge foreman would certainly destroy tyson.

Old Foreman was pretty terrible Tyson would have killed him (literally).
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:01 AM   #38
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Stewart gave Holyfield a tough fight too though ....

.... but then of course you think Tyson beats Holyfield too.
Two perfect examples of fights where stylistically they were standing with a puncher and having a hard time. Tyson was alot better than Stewart in hurting and finishing his opponent, so to answer your question yes I believe Tyson would have beaten both of them around this time.
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Foreman barely made it out of he Alex Stewart fight, but he would have destroyed Tyson.
it is a stupid comparison because every fighter is different and every style is different, stewart was down twice by foreman he was Subdued by foreman in the early rounds then he ran during all the fight to survive, it is because he lost the fight. . tyson was a short puncher not a boxer-puncher with long reach. then i say tyson was destroyed by a bucket of garbage like douglas, then foreman would murder him.old foreman was competent against peak holyfield, past prime evander destroyed tyson twice, frank bruno did hurt tyson in the first match so you put foreman in the place of bruno and tyson gets raped.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:11 AM   #40
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Old Foreman was pretty terrible Tyson would have killed him (literally).
the old foreman 90-91 probably would ko peak tyson
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:13 AM   #41
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it is a stupid comparison because every fighter is different and every style is different, stewart was down twice by foreman he was Subdued by foreman in the early rounds then he ran during all the fight to survive, it is because he lost the fight. . tyson was a short puncher not a boxer-puncher with long reach. then i say tyson was destroyed by a bucket of garbage like douglas, then foreman would murder him.old foreman was competent against peak holyfield, past prime evander destroyed tyson twice, frank bruno did hurt tyson in the first match so you put foreman in the place of bruno and tyson gets raped.


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it is a stupid comparison because every fighter is different and every style is different, stewart was down twice by foreman he was Subdued by foreman in the early rounds then he ran during all the fight to survive, it is because he lost the fight. . tyson was a short puncher not a boxer-puncher with long reach. then i say tyson was destroyed by a bucket of garbage like douglas, then foreman would murder him.old foreman was competent against peak holyfield, past prime evander destroyed tyson twice, frank bruno did hurt tyson in the first match so you put foreman in the place of bruno and tyson gets raped.
Its stupid to think Foreman would have beaten Tyson when he was beaten or outboxed or outfought by just about everyone he faced in the 90's of any substance.
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the old foreman 90-91 probably would ko peak tyson


How? He was losing to complete scrubs.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:32 AM   #44
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How? He was losing to complete scrubs.
old foreman lost to peak holyfield and prime morrison(who did change his style to outbox foreman) mike tyson would exchange blows, mike tyson would not run. so against who lost foreman(the good version 88-93) in his second career? scrubs? evander holyfield in his prime? old holyfield raped tyson twice, foreman in his 40s fought 12 rounds against evander in his best moment. tommy morrison? who fought much better against ruddock or lewis than tyson did?

who destroyed tyson? trevor berbick? a bum in his 30s? james smith? tyrell briggs? james tillis? pinklon tommas? ribalta? david jaco? a lhw spinks? a shot holme? oh the beast mike tyson oh my god!!!
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not, the sad truth is that even the old foreman 90-91 would have a great chance to knock out peak tyson(yes foreman was slow ,old, tyson was in his prime but styles make fights and foreman only need his good chin and his power to destroy tyson(and even 40 years old foreman was by far stronger than tyson), and he had it in his second career. tyson was no holyfield), holyfield 90 would humiliate ruddock always. but gerorge foreman would certainly destroy tyson.
Styles make fights between fighters of equal levels. Get off ESB and actually go watch Foreman's fights in the 90's and Tyson, and then come back and tell me he would of knocked out an 80's Tyson

He would of gotten his head taken off. Holyfield was a great fighter, a GREAT fighter, but he wasn't a killer puncher. Tyson, Louis, Dempsey, Marciano, Lewis, Bowe etc etc would have made mincemeat out of him.
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