Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano

Bad_Intentions · 06-28-2007, 12:39 AM

Marciano UD

Bad_Intentions · 06-28-2007, 01:08 AM

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Are you trolling?

No.

Dostoevsky · 06-28-2007, 02:16 AM

Ike Ibeabuchi TKO 3

Ike is just too big,fast,strong,heavy.

everything Marciano has, Ike has, and is better.
I know the old timers who defend the champions of the past will go ape shit at that but i just don't see how he could possibly beat someone of Ikes skill level and size.

thunder06 · 06-28-2007, 03:37 AM

Marciano KO13.

Boilermaker · 06-28-2007, 05:16 AM

This is an excellent fight. Very, very similar to the Tua fight. But i tend to think Rocky has a little better work rate than Tua and finishes the fight a little stronger. Still, I say Rocky wins a disputed and close but fair decision.

janitor · 06-28-2007, 05:26 AM

This would be a classic and make no mistake, there is a verry real chance of Ibeabuchi taking it.

I tend to think however that Marciano is a little more refined than Tua and probably edges it where Tua failed.

Marciano Frazier · 06-28-2007, 06:41 PM

Well, Tua was essentially a Marciano clone, heavier but with inferior skill, conditioning, workrate, and two-handed power. Tua very arguably beat Ibeabuchi(all of the commentators and many fans had Tua winning that fight). I imagine that Marciano takes a close, hard-fought decision in a 12-rounder, possbly a late stoppage in a 15-rounder depending on how good Ibeabuchi's 15-round stamina was.

ChrisPontius · 06-28-2007, 06:51 PM

Another difference between Tua and Marciano is that Marciano was a lot less predictable. Marciano came off with weird shots leaning from strange angles whereas Tua was more a text book left hooker with a relatively weak right.

Marciano Frazier · 06-28-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisPontius

Another difference between Tua and Marciano is that Marciano was a lot less predictable. Marciano came off with weird shots leaning from strange angles whereas Tua was more a text book left hooker with a relatively weak right.

Yes, exactly. With Tua, you can always expect a guy who comes more or less straight in and throws a conventional left hook as a knockout punch. With Marciano, there are knockout punches coming from both hands with different types of shots and from all angles all night long.

brooklyn1550 · 06-28-2007, 07:18 PM

Very good fight in which I think Marciano would win by unanimous decision

Bummy Davis · 06-28-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisPontius

Another difference between Tua and Marciano is that Marciano was a lot less predictable. Marciano came off with weird shots leaning from strange angles whereas Tua was more a text book left hooker with a relatively weak right.

Exactly Marciano would get inside of a fighters timing with his weird angles and ability to fire off a knock out punch with a short powerfull snap of 1000lbs of pressure, A lot of people gave Tua the nod with IKE, I like Marciano in this by a UD or a late KO...Its hard to judge IKE because we saw little of him but I give him the best of the unknown senario

RockyJim · 06-28-2007, 08:17 PM

The Rocks awkwardness works well in this fight...as it did in all of his 49 victories
Marciano by KO......

omega dega Doom · 06-28-2007, 08:34 PM

oh damn this will be a no win thread! marciano never fought anyody worth a damn at least n their prime! he wouldn't even be considered a heavyweight nowadays him weighing in at 185-188 he would be just a cruiserweight at best! Ike would KO him within 1-2 rounds! sorry old timers but the truth is going to hurt on this one!

MachineGunMitch · 06-28-2007, 08:50 PM

WTF,Ike isnt even in the same league

rekcutnevets · 06-28-2007, 09:04 PM

Ike is not in terms of greatness. He would be in this fight, however.

Ike is much bigger, and it would show in more ways than appearance.

If Marciano were just a little larger, I would pick him by something.

I think that Marciano may be able to hit as hard as Ike, maybe even have more penetration effect to his punches, he just isn't as physically strong as Ibeabuchi.

I feel Ibeabuchi's work rate would be the difference. I started to say Ike by narrow decision, but this may not go the distance. Ike throw a lot of punches, and hits very hard. Marciano would get hit a lot. Ike by stoppage. Marciano's face would not allow the officials to let the fight run its full course. People would be very upset, because this would be a war and Marciano would be very much in the fight.

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Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Kingdom of Fife, Scotland. Posts: 7,734 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano Ike Ibeabuchi TKO 3 Ike is just too big,fast,strong,heavy. everything Marciano has, Ike has, and is better. I know the old timers who defend the champions of the past will go ape shit at that but i just don't see how he could possibly beat someone of Ikes skill level and size.
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Boilermaker Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,772 vCash: 685	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano This is an excellent fight. Very, very similar to the Tua fight. But i tend to think Rocky has a little better work rate than Tua and finishes the fight a little stronger. Still, I say Rocky wins a disputed and close but fair decision.
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,058 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano This would be a classic and make no mistake, there is a verry real chance of Ibeabuchi taking it. I tend to think however that Marciano is a little more refined than Tua and probably edges it where Tua failed.
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Marciano Frazier Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,482 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano Well, Tua was essentially a Marciano clone, heavier but with inferior skill, conditioning, workrate, and two-handed power. Tua very arguably beat Ibeabuchi(all of the commentators and many fans had Tua winning that fight). I imagine that Marciano takes a close, hard-fought decision in a 12-rounder, possbly a late stoppage in a 15-rounder depending on how good Ibeabuchi's 15-round stamina was.
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ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 11,749 vCash: 238	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano Another difference between Tua and Marciano is that Marciano was a lot less predictable. Marciano came off with weird shots leaning from strange angles whereas Tua was more a text book left hooker with a relatively weak right.
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brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 12,401 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano Very good fight in which I think Marciano would win by unanimous decision
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omega dega Doom newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 34 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano oh damn this will be a no win thread! marciano never fought anyody worth a damn at least n their prime! he wouldn't even be considered a heavyweight nowadays him weighing in at 185-188 he would be just a cruiserweight at best! Ike would KO him within 1-2 rounds! sorry old timers but the truth is going to hurt on this one!
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MachineGunMitch Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dirty South Posts: 2,234 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano WTF,Ike isnt even in the same league
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rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,555 vCash: 1000	Re: Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano Ike is not in terms of greatness. He would be in this fight, however. Ike is much bigger, and it would show in more ways than appearance. If Marciano were just a little larger, I would pick him by something. I think that Marciano may be able to hit as hard as Ike, maybe even have more penetration effect to his punches, he just isn't as physically strong as Ibeabuchi. I feel Ibeabuchi's work rate would be the difference. I started to say Ike by narrow decision, but this may not go the distance. Ike throw a lot of punches, and hits very hard. Marciano would get hit a lot. Ike by stoppage. Marciano's face would not allow the officials to let the fight run its full course. People would be very upset, because this would be a war and Marciano would be very much in the fight.
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