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Old 06-28-2007, 08:22 AM   #1
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W 29 (22 ko's) | L 3 | D 0 | Total 32
BELT: WBA Super Middleweight Title (2 X)
Current World Ranking - 3 - (BOXREC)
Professional Career Start: 2000 - 07 -03

Previous Opposition:
Sam Solimon x 2
Danny Green
Mikkel Kessler
Manny Siaca
Antwun Echols
Sven Otke

MUNDINE V NIEVAS
UD: 120/108, 119/108, 119/107

Just look at the facts. Nievas was rated top 15 - ok 15 - for the division. Mundine has previously stated that he will fight up to top 15. Nievas was on the end of the range, but had I been a fighter I would do the same on my first defence (especially after losing the belt on 1st defense first time round)

Nievas hails from Argentina. These people live, fight & $uck with passion. If you reckon Nievas is a bum - then you dont understand the sport - switch over to golf.

Admittedly not an overwhelming result (e.g. no KO) for Mundine. Overwhelming result if you look at it on paper though. I dont think it was by design, but I think the result makes a possible future appointment with JC or Kessler more of a chance. Mundine held back on the combo's that we saw he can throw with Solomon, but introduced an accurate & effective jab. I think the torn bicep did hold him back - who knows how much.

Based on this result, I think Kessler could be tempted into a rematch. If he looks at the tape on this fight. He would assume an unchanged fighter from their last encounter. I think this can only play into Mundine's favor. I'm not saying he'll take Kessler though -but I think Kessler would listen if the money is right.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:32 AM   #2
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Mate your a goose. This guy isn't in the rings top 15 for the division thats for damn sure. Chocs promoter just paid off the WBA to rank him so that the fight would be sanctioned. He is realisticly very lucky to be top 50 in the SMW division. VERY LUCKY.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:33 AM   #3
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W 29 (22 ko's) | L 3 | D 0 | Total 32
BELT: WBA Super Middleweight Title (2 X)
Current World Ranking - 3 - (BOXREC)
Professional Career Start: 2000 - 07 -03

Previous Opposition:
Sam Solimon x 2
Danny Green
Mikkel Kessler
Manny Siaca
Antwun Echols
Sven Otke

MUNDINE V NIEVAS
UD: 120/108, 119/108, 119/107

Just look at the facts. Nievas was rated top 15 - ok 15 - for the division. Mundine has previously stated that he will fight up to top 15. Nievas was on the end of the range, but had I been a fighter I would do the same on my first defence (especially after losing the belt on 1st defense first time round)

Nievas hails from Argentina. These people live, fight & $uck with passion. If you reckon Nievas is a bum - then you dont understand the sport - switch over to golf.

Admittedly not an overwhelming result (e.g. no KO) for Mundine. Overwhelming result if you look at it on paper though. I dont think it was by design, but I think the result makes a possible future appointment with JC or Kessler more of a chance. Mundine held back on the combo's that we saw he can throw with Solomon, but introduced an accurate & effective jab. I think the torn bicep did hold him back - who knows how much.

Based on this result, I think Kessler could be tempted into a rematch. If he looks at the tape on this fight. He would assume an unchanged fighter from their last encounter. I think this can only play into Mundine's favor. I'm not saying he'll take Kessler though -but I think Kessler would listen if the money is right.


You put new meaning in the word gullible.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:37 AM   #4
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Your going to get eaten by the crunchers champ, they smell sack to bite into. Most people agree it was an entertaining main event. It was good for Mundine to get ring time and work on some things. His accuracy was awesome and his evasive skills were also top shelf. I thought he obviously worked on increasing his jab output and probably mistakenly thought he could KO the guy anytime he wanted. Which was wrong and frustrated him towards the end. I also think he is working on standing his ground with the gloves up to defend against the ropes rather than disengage out the back when they come after him. I was impressed, I though he did fade slightly towards the end. And was frustrated to find he couldnt KO him despite landing bombs at will.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:39 AM   #5
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Mate your a goose. This guy isn't in the rings top 15 for the division thats for damn sure. Chocs promoter just paid off the WBA to rank him so that the fight would be sanctioned. He is realisticly very lucky to be top 50 in the SMW division. VERY LUCKY.
dont you love the way these newbs dive in head first with no idea and think you will praise them?
no one had heard of this guy; then suddenly POOF! he is in the wba top 15. It doesnt take ****ing jimmy olsen to figure out he got pushed through the ranks quickly to provide a soft option and fool ****heads like you into believing he was a credible opponent
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dont you love the way these newbs dive in head first with no idea and think you will praise them?
no one had heard of this guy; then suddenly POOF! he is in the wba top 15. It doesnt take ****ing jimmy olsen to figure out he got pushed through the ranks quickly to provide a soft option and fool ****heads like you into believing he was a credible opponent


Its frustrating because there are so many people who would see his record and actually believe that he is a top 15 fighter in the world, because of his dodgy ranking. I hate it that the general public probably for the most part doesn't realise, due to there underhanded tricks.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:49 AM   #7
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Its frustrating because there are so many people who would see his record and actually believe that he is a top 15 fighter in the world, because of his dodgy ranking. I hate it that the general public probably for the most part doesn't realise, due to there underhanded tricks.
You think so The General Public that were listening to the Sport's Breakfast on 2KY yesterday know all about Nievas......... I think a little ozzie I mean birdie told them.
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You put new meaning in the word gullible.
Mate - the most gullable are those that have to bull**** themselves in order to feel good inside.

It is easy to take a cheap shot on an unkown - fact is neither you, nor anyone else knows $hit about Nievas except for the fight - and even though you saw what he brings to a fight - you will not acknowledge him because...

So let me turn the argument around... Argue that Mundine does not deserve his #3 ranking. Argue that point effectively & convincly then I will concede on Nievas. He has just gone 12 rounds with an excellent boxer & has come out standing with pride & deserved the respect of his opponent for sure.

The facts will $uck you every time, or you will knock yourself out. For a 2000 poster I expected more - lightweight.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:53 AM   #9
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Mate - the most gullable are those that have to bull**** themselves in order to feel good inside.

It is easy to take a cheap shot on an unkown - fact is neither you, nor anyone else knows $hit about Nievas except for the fight - and even though you saw what he brings to a fight - you will not acknowledge him because...

So let me turn the argument around... Argue that Mundine does not deserve his #3 ranking. Argue that point effectively & convincly then I will concede on Nievas. He has just gone 12 rounds with an excellent boxer & has come out standing with pride & deserved the respect of his opponent for sure.

The facts will $uck you every time, or you will knock yourself out. For a 2000 poster I expected more - lightweight.
let him have it MSTR
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Based on this result, I think Kessler could be tempted into a rematch. If he looks at the tape on this fight. He would assume an unchanged fighter from their last encounter. I think this can only play into Mundine's favor. I'm not saying he'll take Kessler though -but I think Kessler would listen if the money is right.
OK.......... I'll write real slow for the re****.

Which part of "Mundine has refused 2 obligatory fights against Kessler in the last 9 months".......... don't you understand?

BTW......... That's a fact....... "Dumb****".
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W 29 (22 ko's) | L 3 | D 0 | Total 32
BELT: WBA Super Middleweight Title (2 X)
Current World Ranking - 3 - (BOXREC)
Professional Career Start: 2000 - 07 -03

Previous Opposition:
Sam Solimon x 2
Danny Green
Mikkel Kessler
Manny Siaca
Antwun Echols
Sven Otke

MUNDINE V NIEVAS
UD: 120/108, 119/108, 119/107

Just look at the facts. Nievas was rated top 15 - ok 15 - for the division. Mundine has previously stated that he will fight up to top 15. Nievas was on the end of the range, but had I been a fighter I would do the same on my first defence (especially after losing the belt on 1st defense first time round)

Nievas hails from Argentina. These people live, fight & $uck with passion. If you reckon Nievas is a bum - then you dont understand the sport - switch over to golf.

Admittedly not an overwhelming result (e.g. no KO) for Mundine. Overwhelming result if you look at it on paper though. I dont think it was by design, but I think the result makes a possible future appointment with JC or Kessler more of a chance. Mundine held back on the combo's that we saw he can throw with Solomon, but introduced an accurate & effective jab. I think the torn bicep did hold him back - who knows how much.

Based on this result, I think Kessler could be tempted into a rematch. If he looks at the tape on this fight. He would assume an unchanged fighter from their last encounter. I think this can only play into Mundine's favor. I'm not saying he'll take Kessler though -but I think Kessler would listen if the money is right.
Take a look at Nievas' ranking on BOXREC
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yeah 47 is about right!
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Mate - the most gullable are those that have to bull**** themselves in order to feel good inside.

It is easy to take a cheap shot on an unkown - fact is neither you, nor anyone else knows $hit about Nievas except for the fight - and even though you saw what he brings to a fight - you will not acknowledge him because...

So let me turn the argument around... Argue that Mundine does not deserve his #3 ranking. Argue that point effectively & convincly then I will concede on Nievas. He has just gone 12 rounds with an excellent boxer & has come out standing with pride & deserved the respect of his opponent for sure.

The facts will $uck you every time, or you will knock yourself out. For a 2000 poster I expected more - lightweight.
WTF?!?

Is this your idea of logic?

"Nievas could be brilliant just because we haven't seen him fight before last night (we'll conveniently disregard your trusty BOXREC's ranking of him), but let's have an argument about something totally unrelated and that is that Mundine doesn't deserve his #3 ranking"

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i just wanna know what you baggers knew about Nievas before the mundine fight? you talk is if you saw all of his prior fights, and know the type of opposition he fought to get that record BEFORE the choc fight was announced.
Some of you who are accusing others not knowing what they're talking about, should stop calling the kettle black!
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i just wanna know what you baggers knew about Nievas before the mundine fight? you talk is if you saw all of his prior fights, and know the type of opposition he fought to get that record BEFORE the choc fight was announced.
Some of you who are accusing others not knowing what they're talking about, should stop calling the kettle black!
You can't be talking about Mundine.......Last I looked........he was beige.

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