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Old 10-26-2007, 11:28 AM   #31
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Default Re: should i fight at cruiserweight or heavyweight?

I once learned how to fly a plane because I flew on a plane, then I played MS flight sim.

What you need to do is get to a gym to train, then spar. That way you can determine if you are strong enough to be competitive at your current weight. If not, you should consider fighting at a lighter weight. Keep in mind that generally, the lighter you go, the faster you need to be.

Also, just because you were in prison, doesn't mean you boxed. Im sure you fought, and you're all hard and tough, but you'd be eaten alive by someone who can drop hooks off of jabs and keep you off balance.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:32 PM   #32
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Fighting and boxing are not close the the same thing. Fighting in jail or on the streets or wherever can make you tough, which is a plus, but I'm sure you've made tons of bad habits. You could train by yourself for a long, long time and still never be where someone is who has been in a gym for a short period of time. Don't go thinking about pro's until you've fought in the amateurs.
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:26 AM   #33
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ight well, naturally i'm a big guy right... my whole life i was big... but i decided i was gonna box profesionally around this time last year right... i weighed myself january of this year.. i was 250lbs, i've been doing alot of cardio this whole year.. now i'm down to about 190 at 6'1 i'm in pretty good shape right now and my stamina's feeling pretty good.. but i see alot of fighters that are naturally too big for there weightclass and have trouble making the weight.. so i'm thinking should i truely be fighting at cruiserweight, or should i fight at heavy?.. based off the fighters today, there's more talent in the cruiserweight division, but correct me if i'm wrong, but dont heavyweights make more money?.. also, who's to say if the fighters i like right now in the cruiserweight division like, Haye, Maccarnelli, Mormecc etc. will even be cruiserweights by the da time i start fighting?.. but yeah, what do ya'll think?


You will find at most boxing gyms these days that few trainers place a lot of importance on fitness. Everybody these days is obsessed with "strength." From what you have said, you have already set yourself apart from the mainstream. I concur with your decision to concentrate of getting into top shape, however you could have done it while engaging in basic boxing training.

You aren't all that young anymore, so time is of the essence. At your age, you should to figure out what your style is going to be as a professional boxer and develop it from the beginning. Adapting your style to accomodate the rules of amateur boxing will be long drawn out waste of time because chances are you won't be a tremendous success anyway. Learning to be a good amateur boxer takes many years, and at your age you don't have time to waste.

Amateur boxing is about winning fights, usually on points. Professional boxing is about drawing fans, and the fans want knockouts. The question is, can you get knockouts? You either need lots of raw power or less power with good technique. In any case, if you can't get knockouts, chances are you are wasting your time in the boxing business.

The need for amateur experience is dependent on your natural style. Pure boxers need lots of amateur experience because it takes years to learn all of the necessary skills. Hard punching sluggers don't need as much experience at the amateur level simply because it is easier to learn and the rules discriminate against sluggers. If you can find a competent trainer he will tell you all these things. It won't take him long to figure out what your style should be and how you should develop it.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:16 AM   #34
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i am a pro heavyweight, and once upon a time i thught a bit like this guy, when i was a kid hitting my punching bag in the garage, nothing is more humbling than going to a proper boxing gym and being shown how little you know, and parring with guys when your ready that make you feel like a total moron, only people that have really boxed and fought know just how hard the sport is, not to mention the politics and business side of things
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:54 PM   #35
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i am a pro heavyweight, and once upon a time i thught a bit like this guy, when i was a kid hitting my punching bag in the garage, nothing is more humbling than going to a proper boxing gym and being shown how little you know, and parring with guys when your ready that make you feel like a total moron, only people that have really boxed and fought know just how hard the sport is, not to mention the politics and business side of things

Everybody has to start somewhere. The sooner you start the better. It is like that in any sport.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:25 PM   #36
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nope, havent even been to a boxing gym yet.. i didnt wanna look like a clown in there, and i wanted to be able to have da stamina to train atleast 4hours a day.. so my plan was to dedicate 1year to cardio and my left hand... but come january i'll be boxing at Atlanta's art of Boxing Center.. and since O'neil Bell trains there also.. i was also thinkin wont dat help me out havin a champion (well x-champ) there... but bacc to ur question... i plan on boxing amauter at da turn of summer... so yea, does any of what i said effect my weight class question and decision?
Buddy,
Number 1: No-one looks like a clown when they start boxing, if you go to a properly established amateur boxing gym, the other boxers and trainer will understand you only just started and they will teach you as much as you are willing to learn.

Number 2: Street fighting is for exactly that, the street. It has no relevance at all in a gym. For your own sake, get down to the gym pronto.

also regarding cardio it would probably only take you a month or 2 to get a decent level up.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:31 PM   #37
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ighh ighh.. good look on the "no cruiser division" i didnt even know that... but umm.. about da "learning how to box" statement... dont get it twisted, i no how to box.. i've been fighting since i was little.. and dont take this the wrong way, i'm not trying to say i'm "this and that" on here and sound hard or whatever.. but i've been gang bangin since i was 11 which caused me to get into mad fights throughout my life.. and when i was loc'ked up i was boxing day in and out... so i have a huge fighting baccground... that's how i got into boxing, when i learned i cant be getting into anymore fights.. but i still had the desire to fight since i love it... so yeah, i've been fighting my whole life, i'm just trying to convert that into boxing, you feel me? but like i said, dont take that the wrong way.. but yeah, i apreciate the advice regardless.. good lookin out

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:39 PM   #38
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i just started boxing myself and still training for my first fight, but i can tell you that most the people on this forum are not so nice but they know what they are saying.

heavyweights normally do make more money but again oscar de la hoya earned 52mil(the highest purse recorded for fighter) so basicly its just the popularity

i think you will do good in cruiserweight
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:30 AM   #39
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first of all, i find it intersting that we have similar names...second, i would start at cruiser, it's easier to gain weight than to lose it (atleast for most people)
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:46 PM   #40
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ight well, naturally i'm a big guy right... my whole life i was big... but i decided i was gonna box profesionally around this time last year right... i weighed myself january of this year.. i was 250lbs, i've been doing alot of cardio this whole year.. now i'm down to about 190 at 6'1 i'm in pretty good shape right now and my stamina's feeling pretty good.. but i see alot of fighters that are naturally too big for there weightclass and have trouble making the weight.. so i'm thinking should i truely be fighting at cruiserweight, or should i fight at heavy?.. based off the fighters today, there's more talent in the cruiserweight division, but correct me if i'm wrong, but dont heavyweights make more money?.. also, who's to say if the fighters i like right now in the cruiserweight division like, Haye, Maccarnelli, Mormecc etc. will even be cruiserweights by the da time i start fighting?.. but yeah, what do ya'll think?
stick at cruiser the bigger they are , the harder they hit
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