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You have to study their speed before just simply saying who is the fastst..first of camcho speed was bull..he never had nothing behind it..nothing..bum....Now Roy jones was awkward but the left hook was amazing...Roy's reflexes to counter is the fastest ever, that I have seen. when fighters are scared to jab or even throw punches because of the counter that they will catch befor their hands are able to pull back to defend that is fast...Now with that said, as far as combination..just look at the olympics that leonard was in, look at his fight with mayweather sr,,,etc....duran 2...even kevin howard...you will combinations that no one has ever been able to replicate..Difference leonard pulled back (most of time) and launched his punches from angles with the entention of hurting you before he retired...one classic example of this is the kalule fight..After leonard retired he lost a lot of his speed pre the hagler fight (he simply looked fast against a much slower hagler but he was very slow in that fight for him) he lost his angles, and his punches were softer and and thrown to score not to hurt....he only tried to hurt when he sinced he had a person hurt after retirmenet..before retirment ..you simply need to see the dvds....
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man we'll just agree to disagrre you think floyd has faster hands fine i think ZAB does done now Last edited by Svengali; 08-16-2006 at 06:21 AM. |
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One thing is a little disconcerting on this thread, a good percentage (shane, PBF, Roy, Judah, Calzaghe) are current fighters, and some others (Taylor, Camacho, Tyson) fought recently.
Im wondering if we are short changing some of the historical fighters (in which video exists, of course). |
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I was harsh on Camacho...although I appreciate him more now than ever have..I just hated this dudes style so much.. I still say Taylor was a little more explosive
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Camacho had fast hands but even as a lightweight his combinations were nothing like leonards....he tried to shoe shine like leonard..but his punches he never pulled back..
leonard if you look at when he shoe shined he was actually pulling his hands back on each shot, but he was soooo fast that rjj and camacho.simply flurried with their hands in front of them,,no power on the punches... Now I am referring to the 76-82 ray leonard...the 87 and after ray's speed ws gone..look at how he shoe shinned against hagler..nothing on it...Now if you look at mayweather sr vs leonard,,you will see speed, look at round 9.. then look at leoanrd in the olympics..dammmmm never before has a fighter put combinations together like that....Also, anybody can get their punches off when they dont have to fear punches coming back at them...ala camacho.... |
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