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Old 08-09-2010, 02:18 PM   #1
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Default WALCOTT vs. LEE Q.

This fight has always be a curiosity to me. Murray was one of the biggest punchers in the game and a skilled boxer. He had Ray Arcel in his corner and had been in there with the best and beaten most of them. Yet he gets disqualified for "not trying" and playing Bonecrusher Smith to Walcott's Mike Tyson by clinching and grabbing the whole way and not fighting. From what I've read it's not like he was hurt really bad at any point and it's not like Walcott was some holy terror; not so much that a proven top heavyweight like Murray should be afraid of him and fight scared.

I've often wondered if Lee Q. threw this fight. He was investigated afterwards from what I've read and his purse upheld.

Anyone know the particulars to this battle? Burt? GPat? Anyone?
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This was one of Walcott's most underrated wins. Lee Q Murray in his prime was a terrific fighter. Along with Elmer Ray and Jimmy Bivins, 2 other top fighters Walcott beat. Walcott essentially cleaned out the division from 1945-1947. It's my personal opinion Walcott's style made Murray look so bad early on, that Murray lost confidence in himself and became frustrated. Walcott simply dominated him.


DISQUALIFY MURRAY
FOR NOT FIGHTING

Baltimore, Nov. 13 —Lee Q.
Murray, the Norwalk, Conn., battler
who had won 11 straight fights in
Baltimore rings, was disqualified for
stalling in the ninth round of his
scheduled 10-round bout at the
Coliseum last night with Jersey Joe
Walcott.
Walcott, 1B9, Camden, N. J.,
was awarded the decision on the
basis of having taken every round
and the aggressor all the way.
The Maryland State Boxing Commission
announced it had summoned
Murray and his manager to
give an accounting next Monday.
Meanwhile, Murray's share of the
purse was held up.
After the main event, Referee
Eddie Leonard gave this explanation:
"It was an unusual decision, but
if the match had been declared no
contest Walcott, who tried to make
a fight of it. would have been penalized
along with Murray. Walcott was
named the winner because he tried."
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:01 PM   #3
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Default Re: WALCOTT vs. LEE Q.

Thanks for this thread. I'm not very 'up' on my Heavyweights but it seems an interesting bout nonetheless.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:06 PM   #4
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This fight has always be a curiosity to me. Murray was one of the biggest punchers in the game and a skilled boxer. He had Ray Arcel in his corner and had been in there with the best and beaten most of them. Yet he gets disqualified for "not trying" and playing Bonecrusher Smith to Walcott's Mike Tyson by clinching and grabbing the whole way and not fighting. From what I've read it's not like he was hurt really bad at any point and it's not like Walcott was some holy terror; not so much that a proven top heavyweight like Murray should be afraid of him and fight scared.

I've often wondered if Lee Q. threw this fight. He was investigated afterwards from what I've read and his purse upheld.

Anyone know the particulars to this battle? Burt? GPat? Anyone?
No, I have no insight to this fight, but having seen Joe Walcott flatten
hard punching Tommy Gomez ,MSG 1946, I have little doubt that
Jersey Joe was the best heavyweight excluding the aging Joe Louis..
Lee Q Murray would tease you, much like a later David Tua, but never
would live up to expectations...Joe Walcott was a late bloomer it seems...b.b.
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