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Old 06-30-2007, 12:02 AM   #1
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Default Ding would have a valid shot against Jean-Marc

I think Ding has enough tools to defeat current CW king, Jean-Marc Mormeck. I have seen both fights that JMM had with O'Neill Bell and the guy does have some stamina issues. Ding needs to work on his condiotning as well, but Ding has one hell of a chin and very good power. Most likely, JMM will end up boxing Ding..but if he did try to slug it out with Ding or fight the way he fought Bell for the first fight and the first 7 rounds in their second fight..I think Ding would win by KO in the middle rounds.

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Old 06-30-2007, 12:10 AM   #2
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Mormeck is also 5'10, Nwodo is tall and has reach. The height makes a big difference for a powder keg fighter like Ding.

I'd take Ding over Mormeck, he can take Mormeck's best, but Mormeck won't be able to take his and Ding can carry his power late if needed.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:11 AM   #3
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I think Ding would destroy Mormeck inside of two rounds.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:12 AM   #4
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Default Re: Ding would have a valid shot against Jean-Marc

I agree. Bell's workrate, chin, and reach would frustrate Ding badly, but he would be a very live dog against Mormeck. You have to give Ding a chance to beat anyone that hittable.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:12 AM   #5
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I think Ding would destroy Mormeck inside of two rounds.
I'd say 6-8, Mormeck is good, but his style plays into Ding's style, where as Nwodo had clear significant advantages over a short, slower hooking bomber like Ding.

Ding's a slugger, Mormeck is a swarmer, works well.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:13 AM   #6
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I agree. Bell's workrate, chin, and reach would frustrate Ding badly, but he would be a very live dog against Mormeck. You have to give Ding a chance to beat anyone that hittable.
This Nwodo tonight had the right tools to beat Bell, Bell's chin is average at best. However, Mormeck would have laid out Nwodo early on due to his early swarming.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:18 AM   #7
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Mormeck has had some stamina problems in his past few fights. Ding can take Jean-Marc's best shots and Mormeck will always be right in front of Ding to hit. Ding stuns Mormeck in the 6th, takes out a gassed Mormeck in the 9th or 10th.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:23 AM   #8
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Mormeck has had some stamina problems in his past few fights. Ding can take Jean-Marc's best shots and Mormeck will always be right in front of Ding to hit. Ding stuns Mormeck in the 6th, takes out a gassed Mormeck in the 9th or 10th.
I'd say he removes him near to when he has him stunned and running, Ding hits much harder than Bell.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:25 AM   #9
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From the way Ding looked tonight, I would see him getting stopped within 6 rounds by mormeck. If he could last and Mormeck gasses the reverse would be true. If it goes to the cards Id still favor Mormeck right now.

I'd favor Bell over Ding as well. I'd really like to pull for ding in these fights and I would be, but the workrate he had tonight was horrendous and he just looks like he will get outworked at the premiere level.

Ding landed 6 total jabs in 8 rounds. Averaged about 24 total punches thrown a round and landed at a terrible rate.

If it wasn;t for that massive ending by Ding he was on his way to a decision loss in this fight.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:27 AM   #10
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Ding has a valid shot against Mormeck. I'd pick him to win it. Mormeck doesnt have the size advantage and will come in and trade with him. Ding can handle mormecks best I'm sure but Mormeck wont be able to handle Dings.

Mormecks style makes a good fight for Ding.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:28 AM   #11
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I think Ding would beat a prime Ali and Tyson as well if he decided to fight at Heavyweight.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:28 AM   #12
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From the way Ding looked tonight, I would see him getting stopped within 6 rounds by mormeck. If he could last and Mormeck gasses the reverse would be true. If it goes to the cards Id still favor Mormeck right now.

I'd favor Bell over Ding as well. I'd really like to pull for ding in these fights and I would be, but the workrate he had tonight was horrendous and he just looks like he will get outworked at the premiere level.

Ding landed 6 total jabs in 8 rounds. Averaged about 24 total punches thrown a round and landed at a terrible rate.

If it wasn;t for that massive ending by Ding he was on his way to a decision loss in this fight.
Mormeck lacks the height and reach of Nwodo however, and his style plays into Ding's style. Completely different scenerio.

Mormeck is also not a one punch KO hitter by any means, he couldn't put away chinny Bell on two occassions, there is no way he puts away Ding by coming forward and getting into a slugfest.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:29 AM   #13
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I think Ding would beat a prime Ali and Tyson as well if he decided to fight at Heavyweight.
Hater! I don't even see why you would make a response like this, it's not like anyone is overrating Ding. I am sure everyone knows that he needs to work on his workrate and his condiotioning. I guess it's a crime to be excited for a guy that visits here? Right Sweet Pea!?!?!?
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:36 AM   #14
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Mormeck lacks the height and reach of Nwodo however, and his style plays into Ding's style. Completely different scenerio.

Mormeck is also not a one punch KO hitter by any means, he couldn't put away chinny Bell on two occassions, there is no way he puts away Ding by coming forward and getting into a slugfest.
Mormeck is a hard puncher. Maybe not a single shot monster like Ding, but Mormeck is a pretty relentless guy in the early rounds and throws many hard punches and has the serious advantage over ding in a couple key areas. Those areas are hand speed, combination punching and IMO he is a very rugged inside fighter. Nwodo stung Ding once pretty bad, I can see mormeck being more effective early.

One thing that really bothered me tonight was Ding;s complaining to the ref, many rounds like he didnt want to fight, his own corner almost stopped it. He complained of headbutts (legit) rabbit shots etc. Mormeck will be very rough like that and I think it will bother Ding in a bad way.

I obviosuly see the style difference and its pretty safe to say a mover with good hand speed and reach would be a terrible style for Ding. Mormeck is more Ding's style I agree, I still favor Mormeck.

Just one man's opinion here, I'd love to see the fight come off and Ding ready to be more active than he was tonight.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:40 AM   #15
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Ding has a shot against any cruiserweight right now who slugs it out
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