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Old 04-05-2012, 07:42 PM   #1621
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If Mosley had anything left after the second round he would knock Floyd
down the next time he caught him, and another time the lights would be out
for Floyd.

Unfortunately Mosley stopped throwing punches because ....
he got old, was rusty, blood drained or not on the PED's as usually
(chose one or all for convenience)

.... but the fact is fact, if that fight would happen a few years back
and Mosley was in top shape Floyd would not survive.
Your post is complete Bullshit. Mosley stopped throwing because he was getting neutralized and countered. You need to learn boxing. He tried to jab to the body again, and got countered with a 3 piece. Mayweather took that shit away. He was hitting Mosley with counter rights all night.

Mosley was still bouncy and jittery all through the fight. He threw more punches in the later rounds then the early rounds. He was just shook.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:30 PM   #1622
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[quote=RafaelGonzal;12509502]he hasnt fought the kind of opposition that could exploit his weaknesses and eludes the toughest challenges, until then the jury is out on his greatness.[/QUot] what, who , when, the fight game is mayweather
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:33 PM   #1623
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Pac faught a better Moseley!
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:40 PM   #1624
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Pactards out in full force. You mother****ers better worry about Bradley.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:42 PM   #1625
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You have to catch Floyd when he opens up. Corley and Shane caught him when be attempted to open up coming out is the shoulder roll defense. Southpaws and orthodox fighters have been shut out when they couldn't finish Floyd after hurting him.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:54 PM   #1626
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someone fast with power gives him problems. practically avoided pac in 2009. now that pac has slowed a bit, he wants the fight

floyd sr: "my son will never fight pacquiao" he said it after the cotto fight
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #1627
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Your post is complete Bullshit. Mosley stopped throwing because he was getting neutralized and countered. You need to learn boxing. He tried to jab to the body again, and got countered with a 3 piece. Mayweather took that shit away. He was hitting Mosley with counter rights all night.

Mosley was still bouncy and jittery all through the fight. He threw more punches in the later rounds then the early rounds. He was just shook.
completely disagree, Floyd maybe adjusted in 3rth and 4th so Mosley
could not repeat what he did in 2nd, but after 4th round Mosley
was grasping for air and barely could recover during the breaks.
Floyd started dominate after round 6th tagging Mosley constantly.

But seriously Floyd did nothing to Mosley in the first 4th rounds to
warrant his complete exhaustion .... Mosley's 1.5 year ring rust
combined with blood drain, maybe a slight lack of PED's and his
age ... all that combined were the reasons...
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:20 AM   #1628
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Judah.

Is Castillo really all that great?

Oscar was 1 fight away from retirement, made him look ordinary / beatable.

Mosley looked shot and made him look beatable for a few rounds.



Aside from a few names he hasnt really fought anybody special, and none of the big names on res were anywhere close to there primes, more like at the end of their careers.
You keep bringing the Castillo's fight that was long time ago, Floyd today is a different animal a solid welter who loves to walk down opponents.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:53 AM   #1629
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His skill level is extremely overrated... He gets treated like god in terms of his boxing skill , and hes not even the smartest man in boxing right now.

His style is not that hard to figure out. Defensively he uses the shoulder roll almost exclusively. His counters basically boil down to a straight right hand over the jab or a check hook... sometimes an uppercut. He pulls his head straight back from punches which is why hes easy to hit with the jab.

Offensively, he throws basically 1 of 3 punches, a jab , a lead hook , or a lead right hand. He throws them in singles, rarely ever in combinations. He telegraphs his lead right hand before he throws it. He throws his left hook wide. If you can break down a shoulder roll D you can break Floyd down. All you have to watch out of for is his left hook, his right hand, because thats all hes' got. Watch the De La Hoya fight, Floyd could barely penetrate through a substandard defense because he doesnt know how to put punches together, and he doesnt attack the body either.

What makes Floyd (or made him) so hard to beat was his style, super tight defense, and his crazy athletic ability and speed. Even if you got a guy figured out it's not easy when he's as fast or athletic as Floyd is, when he can get punches off and get out of the way before you have a chance to return fire. But even Castillo proved that without speed, that with some solid fundamentals and a little bit of cleverness, you can make Floyd look totally beatable. It didnt take god to do it either , just Jose Luis Castillo. And even a '1 fight away from retirement' Oscar made him look completely ordinary.
This guy truly believes all this crap....Yet thinks that Manny Pacquiao's Boxing Skill and Ring IQ is the BEST IN BOXING...
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:05 AM   #1630
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He has without question the finest defense seen in decades in the ring. I would be hard pressed to name a fighter in boxing history with superior defensive skills. In addition to being a defensive genius Floyd possesses a high boxing IQ. He is without peer in adapting to his opponents strengths and weaknesses and is as good a ring tactician as there currently is in boxing. Mayweather exhibits pin point accuracy in his punching and rarely bypasses an opening when it presents itself. Victor Ortiz found this out the hard way. As important as anything else in Floyd Mayweather’s makeup is his ability to compartmentalize and focus on getting the job done. The ability to stay cool under pressure is a trait that cannot be taught and Floyd has demonstrated it time and again in the ring. He's not impossible to beat but there is a greater chance of him winning and retiring undefeated.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:02 AM   #1631
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This guy truly believes all this crap....Yet thinks that Manny Pacquiao's Boxing Skill and Ring IQ is the BEST IN BOXING...
Is Floyd's ring IQ higher than PAC's?
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:36 AM   #1632
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Mayweather has no skill. NONE.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:44 AM   #1633
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And yet he has not been beaten. How the **** is he easy to figure out when 41 guys came up short and most got dominated ?
Castillo tapped that! Whooped that ass in the first fight... EVERYONE KNOWS IT! EVERYONE....
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:49 AM   #1634
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:49 AM   #1635
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name one boxer who currently adapts better than him in the ring who has the best ring iq in boxing currently?
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