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Old 04-26-2012, 05:03 PM   #1696
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See, they say he's the best of his generation BUT who did he really ever fight who was in their prime? In my opinion Corrales was the most notable name he defeated.

Just a few names to throw at ya.

Hatton - Fought at 147, not Hatton's natural weight class

ODLH - in my opinion, well past his prime and still managed to give Floyd a tough fight

Arturo Gatti - Past his prime, but In my opinion was never a great fighter. Only known for his "brawls" with Micky Ward.

Zab Judah - Mayweather beat him, but Zab gave Floyd another tough fight.

Castillo - Got beat in Rematch, but 1st fight was extremely close.

Ortiz - Got sucker punched by Floyd, but Ortiz deserved it (in a way).

Mosley - a 38/39 year old who nearly put Floyd on his a**

I am not a hater, but I dislike when Floyd says "I am the best ever" and starts comparing himself to Ali.
I never understood this crap and the illusion of weight with Hatton and Floyd. If a man fights in a division that is 140 but shows up to fights at 149, what is his "best weight"?

Tell Hatton to show up at 140 on Fight-Night and then we'll talk. But when he shows up to a fight at 149+ like most of the rest of the JrWW/140 pound fighters... and his opponent, Floyd, tends to show up at 149 for his fights (in the WW division), how is that an advantage when they are around the same weight if not the same weight?


The only thing they did was get rid of the circus that is the "making weight" before you rehydrate.

So in reality, it was "safer" and "Better" for both of them to not have to drain down to a weight they wouldn't be fighting at by fight-time.

other than that...he does overrate himself.


Overall, I think he was an exceptional LW. Could have stood his ground with the best. But other divisions, specificlly 147+...not so much.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #1697
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Just to add, I think Pacquiao's resume is a little stronger than Floyd's, but no doubt he's overrated too. But I respect Pacquiao because he doesn't come out saying he's the best and comparing himself to Ali.
Floyd is a shit-talker. Get the sand out yer vaginer!


Floyd is overated by his fans, but underrated by his hater. All in all, he is pretty fairly judged. And I don'r think a lot of people beat him.


Hearns, Leonard, possibly P, and possibly Duran. Tito is overrated.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:05 PM   #1698
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hes not overrated but overhyped and i would put a fee giys to beat him from back then...sweet pea leonard hagler hearns duran tito a prime dlh a prime macho camacho the likes of benitez i see all of them beating mayweather at welterweight just my opinion of which we will never know
why hagler? hes a ****ing middleweight. theres alot of middleweights who would destroy floyd but its not exactly fair. theres alot of welterweights that would beat him but he'd being moving up to there weight.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:33 PM   #1699
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I never understood this crap and the illusion of weight with Hatton and Floyd. If a man fights in a division that is 140 but shows up to fights at 149, what is his "best weight"?

Tell Hatton to show up at 140 on Fight-Night and then we'll talk. But when he shows up to a fight at 149+ like most of the rest of the JrWW/140 pound fighters... and his opponent, Floyd, tends to show up at 149 for his fights (in the WW division), how is that an advantage when they are around the same weight if not the same weight?


The only thing they did was get rid of the circus that is the "making weight" before you rehydrate.

So in reality, it was "safer" and "Better" for both of them to not have to drain down to a weight they wouldn't be fighting at by fight-time.

other than that...he does overrate himself.


Overall, I think he was an exceptional LW. Could have stood his ground with the best. But other divisions, specificlly 147+...not so much.
When Hatton facing a 140 fighters, he has a big weight advantage. But not @ 147.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:37 PM   #1700
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Only the worst of FMJ haters would say the man is overrated. I mean, come the **** on. If you can say FMJ is overrated, and SRR and SRL aren't w/o blinking an eye, then its not even worth having a boxing conversation with you.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:42 PM   #1701
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neither he is a great fighter
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #1702
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Just to add, I think Pacquiao's resume is a little stronger than Floyd's, but no doubt he's overrated too. But I respect Pacquiao because he doesn't come out saying he's the best and comparing himself to Ali.
well since you threw Ali out there who were all the great fighters he beat???

Frazier-who did he really beat to bea great beside fighting Ali?

Foreman-nice win

Liston


outside of that who are the other Hall of famers he beat
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #1703
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he gets overrated by his fans. and people in general think he's better then he really is. But to answer the question, he would be able to compete at a high level in any era, just as Pacquiao would.
how is he overrated?

how many of todays fighters from 140-154 do u think can beat him? he IS the greatest of this era
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:52 PM   #1704
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he is the best of his era....people love to hate em, some people overhype him and other underrate him because of his personality

Now lets time travel back to the Golden Age and his best weights which are 130-140.

Champions at the time....Uncle Roger, Julio Cesar Chavez, Aaron Pryor, Camacho, Livingston Bramble, Azumah Nelson, Vinny Pazienza, Greg Haugen, Pernell Whitaker, Edwin Rosario, Brian Mitchell, Rock Lockridge


Mayweather is an all-time great he would have had success and been a champion in any era...Only guy I'd favor over him is Whitaker he beats the the rest...its not fair to compare him to welterweights because even though he has been a champion their and higher he isnt at his best or at his prime age or weight but below hard to argue he is a beast
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:53 PM   #1705
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If you go back to the golden era of boxing during the 80's/early 90's, how do you think Floyd would have coped compared to now?

What do you guys think? Your opinions matter??
Despite his failings outside the ring Floyd is the best of this generation. Obvious Pactard is obvious.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:54 PM   #1706
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name 1 fighter who has gone 5 divisions and remained undefeated while winning 7 world titles...name 1 that isnt names Floyd Mayweather Jr
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:57 PM   #1707
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i dont take him seriously. he talks about being the best but he doesnt fight top fighters in their primes. hes overrated in that sense
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:05 PM   #1708
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Overrated by fanboys, underrated by haters like pretty much any other boxer. His skills are incredible but he has a way to pick his fights that is very irritating about him.

He's not nearly as overrated as many of the primitive old timers boxing fans love to worship here, though
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:05 PM   #1709
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how is he overrated?

how many of todays fighters from 140-154 do u think can beat him? he IS the greatest of this era
pacquiao could beat him. I would of favored pac 2-3 years ago.

greatness isnt based on "could of / would of".

Floyd is the greatest of this era.. how? Pacquiao has already proven he's greater, a long time ago.

Best is debatable, since Floyd never fought the other 'best of this era.'
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:05 PM   #1710
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That's the face of a liar folks. He's most definitely on it and was taken right off guard not expecting that


BUT, there is nothing wrong with having average testosterone levels so it's not illegal whatsoever.
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