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Old 04-25-2012, 11:13 PM   #2146
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:13 PM   #2147
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if u see him heading down the border, then, u know something is up
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:14 PM   #2148
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:17 PM   #2149
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Dapidran said he didn't even know what a steroid was.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #2150
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #2151
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Floyd was temporarily flummoxed by the question, because he's actually on estrogen therapy.

(Fiddy likes it that way.)
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #2152
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Dapidran said he didn't even know what a steroid was.
neither does roach. he said hes only got a high school education
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:21 PM   #2153
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neither does roach. he said hes only got a high school education
Well Ariza did say he is the only one that knows what Manny takes.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:25 PM   #2154
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Floyd' gave a look like, "WTF is that" and looked for help like a kid looking back at his fellow classmates for an answer to a teacher asking him a big vocabulary word.

I don't know what to think with Floyd anymore.

I can only judge from the outside but I'm not really sure if he has ever hired an "expert" Pro Personal trainer and nutritionist like other top athletes have done. Gone out of his way to get the latest advancements on making you perform better from healing to supplements.

He trains at all hours of the day. Eats food that wouldn't be recommended. I'm not even sure he mixes up his drills or he just does similar routines.

In some way, if he really doesn't know, it means he does live in his own world. Like a Bobby Fischer type. Floyd's great at boxing, brilliant at it, but lost in his own world.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:39 PM   #2155
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He's got awesome advisors when it comes to managing finances, and other aspects of his life. I don't buy the constant fast food showing on each episode either, or I never watch tape of another fighter.

His body and it's performance is his most important aspect, and I'm sure as a man in his mid 30s, just like any other men who are not professional fighters, testosterone levels lower. You notice in the gym, metabolic rate is slower, and while you are training in the same frequency, you aren't seeing the same results, and other sides like gradually lower energy levels, which most men don't notice, because it's so obvious, till their late 30s or early 40s.

Remember that 24/7 episode showing how he got the best medical care for his hands, it would be no different measuring his hormonal levels with a physician. This is a multi millionaire athlete we are talking about here...
They may not advertise it, and I wouldn't either, but it would be utterly retarded not to have his test levels and other health markers monitored and even if it's a lower dose of test help raise his levels to an optimal amount, that is legal... as in keeping his base probably lower than 1200, then it's good to go.

Alot of dudes at the gym I workout at and several of my friends are on TRT. Just regular dudes. Different age on taking care of your body, especially if you have the money and means to do so.

Not everyone lowers. And even the ones that do, not everyone lowers at the same rate. It can be quite slow, especially when you are still in your 30's. You can even stay at very high levels in old age. They did studies. Older Men with high levels like they are in their teens.


And everyone has varying levels. Some are in the 340-600 category will say as a "low-normal". And others in the medium-high range of 700-950 . While others are over 1000 ng/dL. So, when you lower, its really important to know where you started and at what rate your are dropping.

But yes, you can lower in your 30's. Even lower in your 20's for many reasons...from injury, food, genes (which you can get tested for), taking the wrong "supplements,"...and so on.

But I also know guys that are "natural" that are in their 40's and 50's that are still in good shape. they have the genes to do it and it helps with their life-style.

Not everyone is made up the same...especially with genes. People have to just come to grips with this.


As far as TRT, it's "legal" for medical reasons. However, they do check your levels. That's why some MMA fighters got busted. Guys trying to go past the "normal" range.

From what I understand, it will also show up in a test no matter how much you inject because T-injections is not made up the same as what your body produces naturally.

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Old 04-26-2012, 01:02 AM   #2156
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Void appears to have roid rage!
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:11 AM   #2157
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Testosterone Replacement Therapy?

Who wants to replace my Testosterone with....what?

Seriousuly, I do not like Floyd, but for Christ sakes lets not hop on his ass for something he could probably no nothing about - or care anything about.

Jesus H Christ on a Popsicle Stick - even Floyd deserves better treatment than this: it's called respect for our fellow humans because they are human.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:16 AM   #2158
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Well, it is kind of random when discussing his career future and accomplishments.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:40 AM   #2159
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What the hell kind of question is that?!?!?

Really i mean who on here wouldnt look like wtf if somebody just shot that shyt off at you....i didnt know anything about all this till right now on this forum.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:42 AM   #2160
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Anyone who espouses to be cleaning up the game and as elite an athlete as Mayweather should at least be aware of it.
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