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Old 06-19-2012, 03:38 AM   #2146
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You just lost your credibility when you said Pac lost to Bradley.
Okay, before the bradley fight manny had 3 losses and 2 draws, those are the results (sans bradley)
and im just stating the facts breh no need to get uppity
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:39 AM   #2147
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Lets also not pretend that anybody in 2007 gave Pac a CHANCE IN HELL to beat all those big WWs. Remember the HBO crew after Pac beat ODLH?...something along the lines of 'does Pac take on Margs?..no way, he's way too big'.

Floyd v Pac pre 2008 was seen as a joke, a size mismatch, but after Pac beat Cotto, Floyd was shook and is still afraid to this day of the little midget Asian (his words) who cleaned house at WW. Mayweather took his dad's advice to heart, don't fight Pac, fighting him poses a health risk for Floyd.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:40 AM   #2148
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You just lost your credibility when you said Pac lost to Bradley. Floyd has a better skills but we are not talking here about skills. We are talking here about actual result. Not because a fighter has a great skill it means he is a better fighter than the other. Sasakul, Ledwaba, Barrera and Marquez posses skills much much better than Pacquiao but what is the result? I repeat people want result.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:41 AM   #2149
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Lets also not pretend that anybody in 2007 gave Pac a CHANCE IN HELL to beat all those big WWs. Remember the HBO crew after Pac beat ODLH?...something along the lines of 'does Pac take on Margs?..no way, he's way too big'.

Floyd v Pac pre 2008 was seen as a joke, a size mismatch, but after Pac beat Cotto, Floyd was shook and is still afraid to this day of the little midget Asian (his words) who cleaned house at WW. Mayweather took his dad's advice to heart, don't fight Pac, fighting him poses a health risk for Floyd.
You lack an understanding of timing.

He was a comfortable favorite by the time he fought his FIRST "big welter", Cotto(e).

Now you're just panhandling tryna get emmanuel credit for a Mayweather fight when he has yet to step up and even take it.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:41 AM   #2150
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Cotto was #2-3 (#7 P4P) and Clottey was #5.

Floyd ducked Margarito, he saw a bigger JLC and wanted no part of it. Pac has outworked Floyd simply by being active, he has a better streak of wins in the past 4 years then Floyd, and that's not even including his best wins which came at sub-135 weights.
And again Cotto is his best win and it was at a catchweight. Dont get me wrong its a good win. But Floyd beat a better Cotto. If u cant accept that then ur just a pacturd. Also he beat a better Mosley. And shut out the the guy Pacquiao cant beat in Marquez. Clottey and Margarito are irrelevant. One was a cheater and lost all his fights after getting caught and Clottey wasnt top 3 like u originally stated and hasnt beat anyone before or after the Pac fight.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:44 AM   #2151
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He only beat Cotto in 2009
This guy makes me

But also

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Old 06-19-2012, 03:50 AM   #2152
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But Floyd beat a better Cotto. If u cant accept that then ur just a pacturd.
Cotto was seen as a washed up bum and an irrelevant opponent for Pac only 3-4 months ago (I didn't agree with this). But now Floyd beat a 'better' Cotto...ok...keep spinning your BS. You're a tiny minority of haters, most rational boxing fans give Pac the credit he deserves for those wins, you guys only serve to re-enforce your own storylines and nonsense.

When it's all done Pac will be rated higher all time, the only way Floyd moves ahead is if he beats him head to head. I used to think that even if Floyd would beat Pac, that it would still not be enough to overcome Pac's legacy...but I give credit to Floyd for his recent run. I don't need to hate.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:51 AM   #2153
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well floyd has won every fight hes ever been in, and mannny has lost 4 with 2 draws does this not pertain?
There are many fighters out there have won their every fights but are they better than Pacquaio? I give you a few names at welterweight.

Bradley
Vargas
Brook
Bundu
Aydin

These fighters are undefeated and one beat Pac by a robbery. Are they better than Pac? Do you think the TS will make this thread if he thought Floyd is greater than Pac?
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:52 AM   #2154
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He only beat Cotto in 2009
What's your point? He needed 3 years. Floyd would need 6 going by his schedule.

Floyd was semi-retired in the last 3-4 years. He just waited it out while the entire division competed against each other.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:56 AM   #2155
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Cotto was seen as a washed up bum and an irrelevant opponent for Pac only 3-4 months ago (I didn't agree with this). But now Floyd beat a 'better' Cotto...ok...keep spinning your BS. You're a tiny minority of haters, most rational boxing fans give Pac the credit he deserves for those wins, you guys only serve to re-enforce your own storylines and nonsense.

When it's all done Pac will be rated higher all time, the only way Floyd moves ahead is if he beats him head to head. I used to think that even if Floyd would beat Pac, that it would still not be enough to overcome Pac's legacy...but I give credit to Floyd for his recent run. I don't need to hate.
Nah some Floyd fans hate on Cotto and never gave him any credit but i was there to see Pac Cotto live. That is Pac's best win hands down. But the catch weight doesnt help his case and he didnt have a trainer. The Cotto at 154 and trained by Diaz that fought Mayweather was a beast. Better than the one Pac fought. Any non biased boxing fan knows this.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:56 AM   #2156
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What's your point? He needed 3 years. Floyd would need 6 going by his schedule.

Floyd was semi-retired in the last 3-4 years. He just waited it out while the entire division competed against each other.
You think Floyd is quite the evil genius huh?
Ortiz #2 Welterweight, WBC champ. Mosley was THE champion in the division when Floyd fought him, Baldomir #3 Welterweight, Cotto #1 Junior Middleweight, WBA Champion


Who was the last real champion of a division that Pac fought in? Hatton? That was more than 3 years ago now.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:59 AM   #2157
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DLH = After Mayweather, and at a weight he hadn't weighed for 7 years.

Hatton. = After Mayweather had KO'd him.

Mosley = After Mayweather had outclassed him.

Cotto = Catchweight

Margarito = Catchweight

Clottey = Bum

Morales = Loss to a semi shot version, and 2 meaningless wins over a completely shot version.

Barrera = Good win

Bradley = Loss ( contraversial or not ) to a fighter that Pac, Roach, and every other Pactard on the planet predicted was going to be a walk in the park.

The above are reasons why Pactards are NOT to be taken seriously at all.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:59 AM   #2158
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You think Floyd is quite the evil genius huh?
Ortiz #2 Welterweight, WBC champ. Mosley was THE champion in the division when Floyd fought him, Baldomir #3 Welterweight, Cotto #1 Junior Middleweight, WBA Champion


Who was the last real champion of a division that Pac fought in? Hatton? That was more than 3 years ago now.
But but but but Margarito........and and and and Clottey

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Old 06-19-2012, 04:02 AM   #2159
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DLH = After Mayweather, and at a weight he hadn't weighed for 7 years.

Hatton. = After Mayweather had KO'd him.

Mosley = After Mayweather had outclassed him.

Cotto = Catchweight

Margarito = Catchweight

Clottey = Bum

Morales = Loss to a semi shot version, and 2 meaningless wins over a completely shot version.

Barrera = Good win

Bradley = Loss ( contraversial or not ) to a fighter that Pac, Roach, and every other Pactard on the planet predicted was going to be a walk in the park.

The above are reasons why Pactards are NOT to be taken seriously at all.
But but but but Floyd ducked MargaCHEATO....and and and he avoided Clottey

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Old 06-19-2012, 04:02 AM   #2160
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But but but but Margarito........and and and and Clottey

And the fact that Margarito just had his soul taken by Mosley and was coming off a year ban from the sport while the Pacturds treat it like a big W for Manny goes to show just how delusional the group really is.
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