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Old 07-11-2012, 02:28 PM   #2266
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So Floyd was worried about fighting someone smaller so he came overweight. My point.
all your emoticons aren't making your opinions any more valid. Floyd was willing to agree to negotiations and Pac wouldn't. Pac cancelled the fight, noti mayweather. pac has had every fight his own way with catchweights and demands.

The one time he has to give a little in negotiations, he folds like a cheap tent and makes excuses.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:30 PM   #2267
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It was a demand.

So in other words, yes, Pac was worried and wanted to make sure nothing shady was going on. Just like Floyd. Oscar and Floyd accepted and Pac didn't. Pac cancelled the fight, and lied in the process.
this post pretty much sums shit up real quick. pac needs to have every fight 100% his way or else there will be no fight, even in the hatton fight he was being a ****ing diva and almost cancelled with like 2 weeks left
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:30 PM   #2268
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It was a demand.

So in other words, yes, Pac was worried and wanted to make sure nothing shady was going on. Just like Floyd. Oscar and Floyd accepted and Pac didn't. Pac cancelled the fight, and lied in the process.
Like I said, you don't get to say that he was lying, since that's not something you can determine. Learn to tell the difference.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:32 PM   #2269
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all your emoticons aren't making your opinions any more valid. Floyd was willing to agree to negotiations and Pac wouldn't. Pac cancelled the fight, noti mayweather. pac has had every fight his own way with catchweights and demands.

The one time he has to give a little in negotiations, he folds like a cheap tent and makes excuses.
Floyd is the one who made the demands = road blocks

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more money
no ppv shares
etc...

take note, Pac has to agree in all those demands or no fight.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:36 PM   #2270
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Floyd is the one who made the demands = road blocks

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more money
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take note, Pac has to agree in all those demands or no fight.
I'm talking about 2009-2010 not what happened over the phone. I'm talking real sit down negotiations.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:36 PM   #2271
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this post pretty much sums shit up real quick. pac needs to have every fight 100% his way or else there will be no fight, even in the hatton fight he was being a ****ing diva and almost cancelled with like 2 weeks left
You are correct sir.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:38 PM   #2272
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I'm talking about 2009-2010 not what happened over the phone. I'm talking real sit down negotiations.
**** living in the past this is 2012 and whats going on right now? Why are you looking at 2009? in 2012 its a fact that the moment Manny agreed Floyd threw out another roadblock he dont want the fight he never did that ****ing simple
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:46 PM   #2273
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Yeah, and you floyd fanatics are the bastion of intelligence!!

Thankfully, most people saw Floyd's testing as a means to duck. Hell, eben many ATG's are confused by floyd's actions. It's essentially a small group of loyal ESB idiots, AKA you and the rest of the Floyd Defense Brigade, who think otherwise.
So can you honestly say, in hindsight of the last few months, as well as the FACT that Floyd knows boxing better than ANY of us posting on ESB, that he was wrong to at the least fear Pac might be on PEDS?

IMO all this has made FLoyd look 10 times better than he did before. Cant you see hes just had everything he was saying proved right.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:55 PM   #2274
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So can you honestly say, in hindsight of the last few months, as well as the FACT that Floyd knows boxing better than ANY of us posting on ESB, that he was wrong to at the least fear Pac might be on PEDS?

IMO all this has made FLoyd look 10 times better than he did before. Cant you see hes just had everything he was saying proved right.
I never contended that there wasn't PED usage in the sport. And if anything good has come from his paranoia, is that more will be inclinded to test. But it can't be done with private contract between a fighter/promoter and a testing agency. Needs to be overseen by a commision, whether state or federal.

Floyd has the star power, and the promoter, to do something good here. Both Floyd and GBP could have said they will test 100% of their fighters, or anyone else on any card of theirs. They could have used their influence with the networks as well, not to mention, strong arm the ABC's too. Had they done that, I'd applaud them and support them 100%.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:01 PM   #2275
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**** living in the past this is 2012 and whats going on right now? Why are you looking at 2009? in 2012 its a fact that the moment Manny agreed Floyd threw out another roadblock he dont want the fight he never did that ****ing simple
Sorry but you can't expect a deal offered in 2009 to still be available in 2012. any logical person knows this.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:04 PM   #2276
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Sorry but you can't expect a deal offered in 2009 to still be available in 2012. any logical person knows this.

Okay what ever you say jack
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:04 PM   #2277
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Okay what ever you say jack
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:05 PM   #2278
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Anyone with sense knows that when someone lies and contradicts as much as Pac and his team do, they are hiding something.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:12 PM   #2279
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1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.
37. Bob Arum doesn't trust USADA offcial testing.


Some of these excuses are so ****ing ridiculous is so un****ingbelievable people still defend Pac and Arum!!!!!
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:20 PM   #2280
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its clear as day that pumpkin head poochio was roided to the eyeballs and has now reduced his dose due to the heavy suspicion and is now beatable again like he was before he juiced.
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