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Old 07-12-2012, 10:33 AM   #2476
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Pac did agree to extra testing, up to that point, the testing he agreed to wasnt exactly someone trying to hide something, but someone who genuinely believe blood work weakened him. Random drug tests till 3 weeks before the fight, post fight blood/urine test, unlimited random urine tests. BTW it was urine tests that caught these boxers so far with the extra testing.

Him agreeing to closer dates later is called "conceding".
It's not about what he agreed to. It's about what he didn't agree to and thee lies and contradictions he used as an excuse.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:59 AM   #2477
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It's not about what he agreed to. It's about what he didn't agree to and thee lies and contradictions he used as an excuse.
Bingo.

The fact the the enite Pac camp was scarmbling, contradicting each other, lying shows something was up. Here are some excuses from Pac himself, Roach and Arum as to why they won't do random testing or fight Floyd (which would require random testing)


I don't even know what a steroid is.
Blood tests weaken me for 2 weeks.
Floyd is bigger than me, so I shouldn't have to test.
Pac is terrified of needles.
Pac won't do random testing because he is superstitious.
Pac won't fight Floyd because it would be bad press in the Philipines.
etc etc etc....
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:04 AM   #2478
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According to Greenburg he agreed in summer of 2010.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:06 AM   #2479
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According to Greenburg he agreed in summer of 2010.
He didn't agree. He said he'd take the tests but wanted a 14 day window still.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:24 AM   #2480
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I've been saying something was wrong with the Pac since he walked out on the first negotiation.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:31 AM   #2481
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Flomos forgot about Floyd thinking about his health above anything else. LOL
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:47 AM   #2482
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I believe that Pactards deep down inside KNOW he's on some kind of PED, and they are fine with it. Otherwise why would they defend anyone who doesn't want random testing.

Fernando Vargas was one of my all time favorite fighters, but when he got busted for using roids, I was glad he got exposed. I wouldn't want to be a fan of a guy who intentionally cheated.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:10 PM   #2483
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hed accuse him because Pac ultimately turned down 50 million dollars and lied about not being able to take random drug tests

Not difficult to comprehend
Again with this shit? So now PAc lied about taking random drug tests? WTF dfoes that even mean? You realize PAc agreed on the tests, it was the CUTOFF DATE that killed negotiations.

****ed up thing is, you probably think you're right about this, and you can't even get the point correct.

You've proven to be completely useless.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:12 PM   #2484
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You must live in a sheltered world (General Santos City?) because most casual fans I talk to think he's a juicing.
You think that matters? What the opinion of casual fans in your circle thinks?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:13 PM   #2485
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You think that matters? What the opinion of casual fans in your circle thinks?
No more than yours does.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:14 PM   #2486
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So of you dudes are so stuck in the past...Arum is the one who killed the fight with all of the lame excuses!
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:16 PM   #2487
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Thats the only way the NSAC would ever consider a change, they sure arent going to do anything on a fight to fight or case by case basis or they would've already when they've been petitioned in the past

No, that isn't. Kizer even said if Floyd came to the NSAC with his request for additional tests for the Pac fight, they would look into it. With a fight of this magnatude, and the $ it brings to the Vegas economy, AS WELL AS the positive spin it would put on boxing, have the two biggest guys in the sport agree to a new form of testing, they would. But that's just my opinion.

DO you not understand you do NOT get to try and answer for the NSAC or say what Pac belives is a lie. Two big things you've done here. And you accuse Pac of lying in other posts, yet are completly wring about that.

And all this from a "I'm a fan of Pac too!!" poster...

You're quite clearly full of shit.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #2488
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No more than yours does.
Been watching boxing since the late 80's. I'm far from a casual. Casuals prefer big events, I'm a die hard fan of the sport. Understand the difference?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:41 PM   #2489
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I believe that Pactards deep down inside KNOW he's on some kind of PED, and they are fine with it. Otherwise why would they defend anyone who doesn't want random testing.

Fernando Vargas was one of my all time favorite fighters, but when he got busted for using roids, I was glad he got exposed. I wouldn't want to be a fan of a guy who intentionally cheated.
It's ****ing insane how the pac fans are acting about the new testing. They actually trash those who take stricter tests and say it isn't good enough, while in the same breath say nothing about the guys only doing commission tests.

absolutely no shame
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:43 PM   #2490
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According to Greenburg he agreed in summer of 2010.
Nope, he still wanted a 2 week cutoff. Mosley and Mayweather had just done it with no cutoff scheduled. Why take steps back when a huge leap forward was just done?

And a fighter shouldn't need to have to control both windows of testing. People say Floyd is suspicious because he knows when testing starts, but turn a blind eye to manny who wanted to know when testing started AND stopped.
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