The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

Are you going spastic?

pretty much considering i'm now dumber from reading that comparison.

[jakelamotta]

Patterson ducked Liston for years...

[jlrivera81]

This question is irrelevant b/c things are completely different now in terms of the sports popularity and how money is made. Back then when boxing was a top sport and so many fighters were known despite their record, people still tuned in. Today, boxing is pretty much at the bottom of watched sports among the general public and people only want to see undefeated fighters b/c that 0 supposedly means you're really good. Otherwise, you're a scrub.

Fighting everyone back then was probably more essential to keep that money coming in. However, Floyd doesn't need to fight like that b/c he makes so much money each fight, he really doesn't have a reason to risk it. I'm sure guys back then would probably be doing the same thing today if they were dealing with these promoters.

But like all of you, i hate this about him. Unfortunately, this is the reality we are faced with.

[SugarShane_24]

Really, whether the intention is good or bad, it looks more like a smokescreen to delay a match with Pacquiao.

It's really hard to fathom why so many people can't see it as clear as day.

[turbotime]

Genuine. Somewhere between all of Pac's camp's excuses for dodging the full random tests, Floyd saw something fishy happening with boxers possibly cheating. He believed that he had a good thing going with Pac running from stricter tests, and stuck with it.

Now it has caught on. Good for him, and the cleanliness of our great sport

[puga_ni_nana]

only flomos or retards think it was floyd cleaning the sport.

[chimba]

Originally Posted by jlrivera81

This question is irrelevant b/c things are completely different now in terms of the sports popularity and how money is made. Back then when boxing was a top sport and so many fighters were known despite their record, people still tuned in. Today, boxing is pretty much at the bottom of watched sports among the general public and people only want to see undefeated fighters b/c that 0 supposedly means you're really good. Otherwise, you're a scrub.

Fighting everyone back then was probably more essential to keep that money coming in. However, Floyd doesn't need to fight like that b/c he makes so much money each fight, he really doesn't have a reason to risk it. I'm sure guys back then would probably be doing the same thing today if they were dealing with these promoters.

But like all of you, i hate this about him. Unfortunately, this is the reality we are faced with.

Great post. No One cares about Boxing now so people can hide with their records. Take Calzaghe for example, He eventually risked fighting Hopkins here but He would have never gotten away with that record back in the 60's 70's. Can you imagine Buchanan not fighting Duran?

Not saying that Joe wasnt a good fighter.

[boyschoir]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Genuine. Somewhere between all of Pac's camp's excuses for dodging the full random tests, Floyd saw something fishy happening with boxers possibly cheating. He believed that he had a good thing going with Pac running from stricter tests, and stuck with it.

Now it has caught on. Good for him, and the cleanliness of our great sport

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so how do you explain Floyd's logic that Pac is on roids coz his head got bigger?

oh wait, if I remember correctly, they settled with Pac's camp.

[Hands of Iron]

Buchanan didn't view Duran as any type of threat, thought he was slow. Of course, this was a crude-as-fuck Duran who had yet to learn to utilize his jab and feints.

[jlrivera81]

Originally Posted by chimba

Great post. No One cares about Boxing now so people can hide with their records. Take Calzaghe for example, He eventually risked fighting Hopkins here but He would have never gotten away with that record back in the 60's 70's. Can you imagine Buchanan not fighting Duran?

Not saying that Joe wasnt a good fighter.

[tezel8764]

Originally Posted by jlrivera81

This question is irrelevant b/c things are completely different now in terms of the sports popularity and how money is made. Back then when boxing was a top sport and so many fighters were known despite their record, people still tuned in. Today, boxing is pretty much at the bottom of watched sports among the general public and people only want to see undefeated fighters b/c that 0 supposedly means you're really good. Otherwise, you're a scrub.

Fighting everyone back then was probably more essential to keep that money coming in. However, Floyd doesn't need to fight like that b/c he makes so much money each fight, he really doesn't have a reason to risk it. I'm sure guys back then would probably be doing the same thing today if they were dealing with these promoters.

But like all of you, i hate this about him. Unfortunately, this is the reality we are faced with.

It's also the way it's marketed, the Huge PPV mega fights are every 5 or 6 months in order to sell to the casual viewer who probably has'nt kept up with an star record. In that particular context the 0 will draw better.

[puga_ni_nana]

well according to some flomos, it's not really pure muscles. it's water so floyd's excuse and saying he could not fight pacquiao even for next year doesn't hold any water.

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by boyschoir

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so how do you explain Floyd's logic that Pac is on roids coz his head got bigger?

oh wait, if I remember correctly, they settled with Pac's camp.

Because his head did get bigger

[chimba]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

Buchanon didn't view Duran as any type of threat, thought he was slow. Of course, this was a crude-as-fuck Duran who had yet to learn to utilize his jab and feints.

Fair enough, but my point is back then you cannot hide, look at the mid eighties for example Mccallum, Jackson, Curry, Kalule, norris, mugabi, they were duking it all out and these are the 2nd level guys in terms of popularity. The nineties, just take a look at Vargas, this kid could have padded it up but at a ripe age was already fighting the likes of Winky and Ike back to back. These guys would be top 5 p4p now. Sure there were fights that werent made like Pryor/SRL but they had their own "big" fights aswell.

The sad part is someone like Canelo or a Broner is a couple of wins against bums away and people are going to be comparing them to those guys I mentioned

[boyschoir]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Because his head did get bigger

brought to court but could not prove anything

couldn't even show up to prove "Pac's head got bigger"

settled with Pac's camp coz Mayweather camp can't back their shit up