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Old 06-19-2012, 04:23 AM   #2626
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Delusional pactards trashing fighters who Floyd beat a better version of. Pac steps up his game to Marquez and Bradley and loses both fights now Pac gotta backtrack and fight them all over again damn its gotta suck to be a pacturd
You sound like a tard. Anyone claiming that Bradley won has zero legitimacy in any boxing related discussion.

You're just fanboys, no use in debating. I'm not even trashing Floyd. Suck it.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:23 AM   #2627
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Hold up. I said that?
It's hard to keep up, you guys tend to morph into the same user.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:24 AM   #2628
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Do we really have to do this again?

Cotto = struggled. Not did just Pac beat him first, Pac DEMOLISHED him.

Ortiz = the kitten who suddenly turned into a lion? Needed a sucker punch? Maidana's left over?

Mosley = Past prime. Almost died in the 2nd round. Pac knocked him down and made his bitch for 12 rounds.

Marquez = Cheated the scales? If that 1 lb on Pac v Cotto matters, surely those 2 lbs mattered.

Hatton = fatton. 'nuff said.

ODLH = Good split decision win IMHO.

This is the reason why Flomos are completely laughable when talking about resumes. You don't even need to consider Pac at welter, Pac of lower weights shits on whole Floyd's resume.
say fam, do you know floyd boxed at lower weight classes as well? and he's never been knocked down (unless you count that shit against zab) let alone TKO'd and KO'd at these lower weights
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:26 AM   #2629
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say fam, do you know floyd boxed at lower weight classes as well? and he's never been knocked down (unless you count that shit against zab) let alone TKO'd and KO'd at these lower weights
say fam, do you know that Floyd's resume of lower weights is trash compared to Pac of lower weights?
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:27 AM   #2630
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You sound like a tard. Anyone claiming that Bradley won has zero legitimacy in any boxing related discussion.

You're just fanboys, no use in debating. I'm not even trashing Floyd. Suck it.
It was a close fight. I had Pac winning. He still took an L. Marquez should have got the W according to the masses. Pacturds getting mad?

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Old 06-19-2012, 04:41 AM   #2631
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say fam, do you know that Floyd's resume of lower weights is trash compared to Pac of lower weights?
no im actually not aware this is fact, care to break it down for me?
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:56 AM   #2632
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Legacies are one of the hardest things to judge a fighter on because I don't think it's simply a name game, especially when you're trying to establish the significance of a victory. But to answer your question, I think both fighters would enhance their legacies, if they'd fight each other, with the victor having the greater legacy. I know that's kind of putting everything in a nutshell, but the soap opera between the two has really become bigger than the sport, and it will be part of both of both fighters legacies. Bout even as it stands right now though.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:58 AM   #2633
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they are really pretty close...even if one is slightly ahead the other can't be too far behind.....i dont understand why they have to be so far seperated by some....they are the 2 ABSOLUTE best for a reason.

They dont get there by fighting complete white washes of matches.....
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:56 AM   #2634
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What a trashy thread.

Pacman's legacy is "I'm afraid of needles...weeeeeeee"
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:03 AM   #2635
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The fact that this is even argued is beyond me

Pacquaio has lost during his prime and at the latter end of his career to much lesser fighters than Mayweather has beaten.

Mayweather generally fights the better version of the fighter that Pacquaio has faced (154 Cotto was much better than 145 Cotto, 154 ODLH, etc) and in the case of Marquez, a guy who should have two wins against Pacquaio, Mayweather dominated him so badly that people didn't even consider it a good win for him until he "beat" Pacquaio a few years on (ironically at the weight that everyone said disadvantaged JMM against Floyd)
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:26 AM   #2636
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The fact that this is even argued is beyond me

Pacquaio has lost during his prime and at the latter end of his career to much lesser fighters than Mayweather has beaten.

Mayweather generally fights the better version of the fighter that Pacquaio has faced (154 Cotto was much better than 145 Cotto, 154 ODLH, etc) and in the case of Marquez, a guy who should have two wins against Pacquaio, Mayweather dominated him so badly that people didn't even consider it a good win for him until he "beat" Pacquaio a few years on (ironically at the weight that everyone said disadvantaged JMM against Floyd)

Totally agree.

People say one of pac best 3 wins is cotto at a catchweight.

Well floyd just beat cotto at 154 lbs. So that one of floyd top wins to.

People like to say Pac beat a prime marquez which we all know is bullshit, one fight was a draw the other pac should have lost. They thought the 3rd fight would do wonders for pac legacy when they fought at WW, yet once again pac lost.

Mayweather schooled marquez at WW for 12 rounds.

Pac has Barerra and Morales as his best 2 wins. I would say this an undefeated p4p Coralles at the time was just as good as a Barerra victory at the time. No one can tell me any different.

We then have pac beating morales having lost the first fight to morales. Morales also lost to lesser opposition before their first fight. So how big really was that win? Why was Pac win against morales bigger than Raheem win over morales?
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:12 AM   #2637
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Money took Corrales, Hatton and Cotto's O. Who 0 Pac take? Nobody worth nothin'. And Money NEVER fought no catchweights on principle AND take the tests AND fight young, hungry lions instead of old toothless ones. So he clean he fight better fighters at their best weight in their primes coming off of spectacular performances and he does higher PPV. Money>Pac. PERIOD.
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:35 AM   #2638
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The moment Pacquaio fights Floyd is the moment people stop running out of excuses to deny a simple fact, Floyd is an ATG and probably GOAT at 130, 135 and in the Top 5 at 140 and 147.

H2H? He's a daunting prospect for anyone prime for prime due to his Ring IQ, Chin, Handspeed, Footspeed, Defensive Ability, Accuracy, Angles and Adaptation.

The idea that Hearns just walks through him makes me laugh.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:07 AM   #2639
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pac was pre prime when he fought the past prime mexican legends
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:11 AM   #2640
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Yeah, he's pulling closer - mainly due to the Pacquiao's poor Mosley and JMM fights. The Bradley win, however, has for the time being stopped Floyd's momentum in closing up on him.
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