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Old 07-11-2012, 02:46 PM   #2821
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Yeah, and you floyd fanatics are the bastion of intelligence!!

Thankfully, most people saw Floyd's testing as a means to duck. Hell, eben many ATG's are confused by floyd's actions. It's essentially a small group of loyal ESB idiots, AKA you and the rest of the Floyd Defense Brigade, who think otherwise.
So can you honestly say, in hindsight of the last few months, as well as the FACT that Floyd knows boxing better than ANY of us posting on ESB, that he was wrong to at the least fear Pac might be on PEDS?

IMO all this has made FLoyd look 10 times better than he did before. Cant you see hes just had everything he was saying proved right.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:55 PM   #2822
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So can you honestly say, in hindsight of the last few months, as well as the FACT that Floyd knows boxing better than ANY of us posting on ESB, that he was wrong to at the least fear Pac might be on PEDS?

IMO all this has made FLoyd look 10 times better than he did before. Cant you see hes just had everything he was saying proved right.
I never contended that there wasn't PED usage in the sport. And if anything good has come from his paranoia, is that more will be inclinded to test. But it can't be done with private contract between a fighter/promoter and a testing agency. Needs to be overseen by a commision, whether state or federal.

Floyd has the star power, and the promoter, to do something good here. Both Floyd and GBP could have said they will test 100% of their fighters, or anyone else on any card of theirs. They could have used their influence with the networks as well, not to mention, strong arm the ABC's too. Had they done that, I'd applaud them and support them 100%.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:01 PM   #2823
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**** living in the past this is 2012 and whats going on right now? Why are you looking at 2009? in 2012 its a fact that the moment Manny agreed Floyd threw out another roadblock he dont want the fight he never did that ****ing simple
Sorry but you can't expect a deal offered in 2009 to still be available in 2012. any logical person knows this.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:04 PM   #2824
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Sorry but you can't expect a deal offered in 2009 to still be available in 2012. any logical person knows this.

Okay what ever you say jack
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:04 PM   #2825
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Okay what ever you say jack
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:05 PM   #2826
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Anyone with sense knows that when someone lies and contradicts as much as Pac and his team do, they are hiding something.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:12 PM   #2827
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1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.
37. Bob Arum doesn't trust USADA offcial testing.


Some of these excuses are so ****ing ridiculous is so un****ingbelievable people still defend Pac and Arum!!!!!
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:20 PM   #2828
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its clear as day that pumpkin head poochio was roided to the eyeballs and has now reduced his dose due to the heavy suspicion and is now beatable again like he was before he juiced.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:26 PM   #2829
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Too bad the world and Floyd's fellow Americans, the boxing writers of America voted Pac as Fighter of the Decade and not Floyd. No wonder Floyd was calling his fellow Americans to support him and not the foreigner Pacquiao. You should go to Floyd prison area and rally there for his release.
The world is full of idiots. Many people are filled with envy and hatred. The truth came out though. Pac is a fraud. I look forward to the truth of his dealings coming out in the future.

The arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward truth.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:27 PM   #2830
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1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.
37. Bob Arum doesn't trust USADA offcial testing.


Some of these excuses are so ****ing ridiculous is so un****ingbelievable people still defend Pac and Arum!!!!!
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:49 PM   #2831
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Were you around 2 years ago? He did agree to extra testing, just not the way mayweather wanted it. He said he'd do the extra testing to a certain level, as well as unlimited piss testing all the way through. He tried to compromise with floyd 2 or 3 times on the issue. Why didn't Floyd agree to taht? What was he so scared of? Pacquiao was already going above and beyond what a normal boxer is required to do, all the while Floyd is slandering him in the media.

I think Pacquiao finally gave in and agreed to everything because the shit had dragged on so long and the fans wanted the fight. Once Pacquiao agreed though Floyd flipped it and demanded more money , when he was okay with 50/50 before. He showed his true colors once again.

Everybody saw through Floyds bs on the issue. No body takes it seriously honestly except some braindead /floyd fanboys on the internet . Floyd never bothered to ask for random testing in his career, all of a sudden Pacquiao comes along and he's shitting his pants in fear. Floyd turned into some insecure crazy person as soon as Pac came along.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:52 PM   #2832
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It's really simple. Pacquiao could've gotten his 50/50 split, in 2009. The contracts have been released. Everything was agreed to. ring size, glove size, who enters the ring first and second, and even a $10 million per pound weight clause penalty.

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Pacquiao had the fight right there and walked away from the biggest fight in boxing history, to FIGHT JOSHUA CLOTTEY. He actually pursued three different opponents DURING negotiations with floyd. Yuri Foreman (hahaha), Joshua Clottey (boring), and this is the best one PAULY MALIGNAGGI!!! hahaha.

He walked away from the biggest fight in boxing history, when interest for the fight was at its peak, to fight JOSHUA CLOTTEY. all because he was afraid to take random tests.

it doesnt matter what anyone says. the facts are right there. Pacquiao ducked the fight. He was either dirty, or scared. which one was it???
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:55 PM   #2833
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Were you around 2 years ago? He did agree to extra testing, just not the way mayweather wanted it. He said he'd do the extra testing to a certain level, as well as unlimited piss testing all the way through. He tried to compromise with floyd 2 or 3 times on the issue. Why didn't Floyd agree to taht? What was he so scared of? Pacquiao was already going above and beyond what a normal boxer is required to do, all the while Floyd is slandering him in the media.

I think Pacquiao finally gave in and agreed to everything because the shit had dragged on so long and the fans wanted the fight. Once Pacquiao agreed though Floyd flipped it and demanded more money , when he was okay with 50/50 before. He showed his true colors once again.

Everybody saw through Floyds bs on the issue. No body takes it seriously honestly except some braindead /floyd fanboys on the internet . Floyd never bothered to ask for random testing in his career, all of a sudden Pacquiao comes along and he's shitting his pants in fear. Floyd turned into some insecure crazy person as soon as Pac came along.


$hit that only makes sense to a Pactard.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:56 PM   #2834
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[quote=Gander Tasco;13316388] Pacquiao was already going above and beyond what a normal boxer is required to do


Really??? He hasnt done ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND what a normal boxer is required to do moron!!!
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:59 PM   #2835
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Pacquiao was already going above and beyond what a normal boxer is required to do.
Really? you are obviously too stupid to understand anything, but ill try to explain anyway. Pacquiao has done ONLY what is required. He hasnt gone above and beyond what normal boxers are required to do idiot. Floyd, Donaire, Ortiz, Cotto, Mosley, Khan, Quillen, Wright....they have all gone ABOVE AND BEYOND.
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