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Old 10-08-2012, 11:09 PM   #4276
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If catchweights actually benefit the opposing fighter then WHY does team Pac keep requesting them despite claiming he's a natural 140 lb guy now? Obviously it does have some benefit to Pac or else he and his team wouldn't request them
Team Pac does this for advantages,which to me is tainted.. If your gonna challenge a bigger guy,then you add the weight,but instead make him come down in weight.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:29 PM   #4277
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I never understood how the blood test was a roadblock to this day. How hard is it for pac to say, "Ok, here is a little blood?" Dam I have given blood LOTS of times, it's not hard. Just do it as it proves you are clean and you get what you want, a fight to prove who is the best of this era.

I think PBF is a bitch and is probably playing mind games, but after seeing pac's reaction, I'm sure he is a little suspicious now.
i have only given blood once. never had the chance to give one again. sure, 450ml is way higher than the required volume needed for pac testing, but then again having taken that much blood left me with weakened legs that same night. go figure.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:45 PM   #4278
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Team Pac does this for advantages,which to me is tainted.. If your gonna challenge a bigger guy,then you add the weight,but instead make him come down in weight.
SRL also fought at catchweights as did past fighters
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:52 PM   #4279
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Can someone please confirm this, did he not make Morales come at the same weights when he fought him the first time when Erik clearly wasnt meant for those weights, and is it true he charged these versions of Erik money for every pound he was over or something?
pac-morales 1--- pac came up from 126 to fight morales at 130. in that fight, both agreed to rematch clause at 130. pac also unknowingly conceded to em's demand to wear winning gloves for that fight.

pac-morales 2---morales wanted to change the contracted weight to a catchweight, pac refused.

pac-morales 3---erik again wanted a catchweight above 130, pac answered with 130 or no fight. ironic that this is where pac was first accused of draining fighters, by not agreeing to catchweight.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:54 PM   #4280
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How in the **** did Margarito benefit from having a weight limit?

The **** kinda Kool-Aid you drinking?

The catchweights aren't so much the issue.

Pac fights DLH after he loses to PBF and looks like shit / gets rocked by Steve Forbes (broken orbital)

Pac fights Hatton when Hatton clearly looks like shit, almost getting KO'd in every fight after PBF

Pac fights Margarito after Marg's gets dominated by Mosley and then looks like shit versus tomato can (I guess boxing is hard without that plaster for Margs)

Who is Joshua Clottey? To this day, nobody knows why Pac and him fought.

Mosley gets the fight after getting dominated by PBF and looking like horrid shit at 154 vs Mora

Pac fights Cotto after Cotto gets plastered (literally) and is given a gift decision versus Clottey - where Cotto was clearly SHOT and NOT recovered from the plaster beating

Pac gets shit because he fights people who are shadows of themselves. Fighting Bradley was the first time he fought someone in their prime since like JMM 2.

Also, he won't take a blood test.

Nonetheless, I still enjoy watching him. Let's just not make him out to be an ATG, because he isn't.
pac is an all time great... no one accomplished what he has so yeah he is an all time great. his resume is also an all time great resume. in the entire history of the sport i dont think i can truelly pick a resume that is better then his... maybe one or two boxers... maybe.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:11 AM   #4281
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wins are all that matter in the grand scheme of things.

pac will be remembered for knocking mother****ers, not cotto or margo coming in at a catchweight on the day before a fight..

deal wiyh it
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:18 AM   #4282
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ok but did he said that he lost 15 pounds and he is not focused on fighting right now? also, did he turned down 50's initiative of making the pac fight for early next year?
Yeah he's not focused right now and didn't want to fight in late 2012. He still can fight next year. By the time Pac is available again, Floyd may be ready to sign
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:55 AM   #4283
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Remember PAC came from 107.5 pounds.

He be fighting them dudes that are career 140 and 150 pound guys.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:58 AM   #4284
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i have only given blood once. never had the chance to give one again. sure, 450ml is way higher than the required volume needed for pac testing, but then again having taken that much blood left me with weakened legs that same night. go figure.
i give blood every chance i can (once every 3 months i believe)

i have never felt weakened from it. i excercise the next day to the fullest of my ability. its a myth that giving blood hinders you.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:03 AM   #4285
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, if the 2 pounds didn't matter in Pacquiao vs. Cotto, they didn't matter in Mayweather vs. Marquez. Especially when you consider the beating Marquez put on Pacquiao at the same weight.

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Old 10-09-2012, 01:40 AM   #4286
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i give blood every chance i can (once every 3 months i believe)

i have never felt weakened from it. i excercise the next day to the fullest of my ability. its a myth that giving blood hinders you.
you see, everyone is different.

btw, have you eaten Balut yet?

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Old 10-09-2012, 02:00 AM   #4287
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Paging all Flomos on PLanet Earth!

Is it due to the PED's that Pac's been knocking out bigger guys and breaking one's eye socket or he's beating them due the catchweight?

So which one is it?

P.S.

Only legit Flomos can answer
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:14 AM   #4288
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almost every boxer swears they're in top shape before fighting manny. cotto was 146lbs like he's been weighing, hatton was at his undefeated weight, tony looked huge compare to manny but i thought manny should've never won that title cause he didn't make weight.. clottey is 147lbs, bradley said he's in top shape disndat, jmm is always at his best against manny weighing a pound away and mosley at 147lbs. But one fact is manny hardly ever weighs the exact same as his opponent.. but you gotta give it to the heart, he fights the toughest champions at their comfortable weight.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:21 AM   #4289
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and i thought they were a bit shook of el terrible.. that first fight was classic!! i think im going to watch it again..
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:41 AM   #4290
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Pac wanted Shane at 142lbs when he was the 147Lb champion. look at the videos on youtube.
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