The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!! - Page 323

freddy-wak · 12-10-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RJJFan

Racist cunt.

my kids are a quarter flip, you idiot....just saying

Montero · 12-10-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Anyone else impressed by the way Manny got up from the first knockdown?

That was a hell of a punch that JMM landed on him and he just got up and smiled. Manny is a warrior, regardless of the short circuit knockout.

freddy-wak · 12-10-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Anyone else impressed by the way Manny got up from the first knockdown?

That was a hell of a punch that JMM landed on him and he just got up and smiled. Manny is a warrior, regardless of the short circuit knockout.

not really...manny's a tough son of a bitch

gyll · 12-10-2012, 02:05 PM

I like the old guy right in front of Pac. It's like he thinks the extra momentum is delayed and is expecting Pac to crash into him eventually. Either that or he's trying to hold Pac in his arms but his old legs won't bring him into the ring.

VivaNazVegas · 12-10-2012, 02:05 PM

Even though it says so under his name, I have a feeling freddy-wak is not a real moderator

KnuckleUp99 · 12-10-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freddy-wak

welcome to the world of boxing !!!!!!...maybe now that your blind asses are humbled, and justice was finally served, you can stop believing in superman, the easter bunny, and santa clause....

the minute manny stops ****ing with the ariza shakes, all of a sudden he's 100% natural, and this was the outcome

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Shit.....PAC was doing really well out side of the one Knock down and the one that put the lights out for Manny. Ariza's shakes had nothing to do with PAC not being able to withstand that shot from Juan....that was a perfectly timed and well placed counter that would have put anyone to sleep from 147 to 168. I'm not one for all the excuses these faggots use about someone being on PEDs when there's no proof. Just shut the **** up and fight....it's boxing not a ****ing mini series. Juan showed why he's such a ****in' beast...he's got some brass balls and an iron will....He also proved to have an iron beard as well.

leftleftright · 12-10-2012, 03:03 PM

I really feel for Manny. I can't stand the pactard irrational invincibility logic, but a bunch of pseudo-Pacquiao fans who used to cheer for him are now talking shit. Nothing has changed. Manny is what he always was -- an aggressive fighter with good hand and foot speed, who puts a lot into his punches, but makes lots of mistakes. When he was a bit younger he could get away with more of them, but he has never looked good against elite technical fighters.

Manny needs a tune up or two to look good in the ring. He should fight Berto next. Berto is a good match-up being a former champ. They're both coming off losses and Manny would knock him out. Then a second fight could be Malignaggi or Guerrero. I'd prefer Paulie because I'm not sure he would look good against the Ghost and has a real chance of losing that fight. He would win a belt and then could fight Floyd.

Convincing wins would put as much of the shine back on the Mayweather fight as is possible increasing the take by 10s of millions. The split right now is probably closer to 80/20 than 50/50. He will lose to Floyd just as he would have at any point in time.

After the Mayweather loss he can finally wrap it up with Marquez V. He and Marquez put on a great show everytime and both have a chance to win. He should not do Marquez V before Mayweather because he never looks good against Marquez.

leftleftright · 12-10-2012, 03:04 PM

Sorry -- accidentally double posted.

sweetray · 12-11-2012, 11:37 AM

It is a shame to be considered pound for pound the best by being a coward.
Floyd should of have fought Pac but instead, he waited for other
to do what he should have done. Is this the way to consider a boxer
pound for pound the best ? even when he avoids the toughest challenges
and expects the best to lose without facing them ? If he wants to be
respected he should fight Martinez instead of expecting other opponent to
defeat him. What is your opinion on this ? Is Floyd a coward or not ?

victor879 · 12-11-2012, 11:42 AM

It should be pretty evident by now that Bob Arum never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring against Mayweather.

Saturday night was Exhibit A as to why.... If you think that right hand was nasty, that's something Pacquiao would eat all night against Mayweather.

Fight is and always has been a mismatch. Pacquiao would have nothing more than a puncher's chance. The idea that he would manhandle Mayweather is not based on reality, just Pactard/Floyd-hater fairy tales and dreams.

Inquisitive · 12-11-2012, 11:44 AM

Floyd has faced and beaten just about everyone Pacquiao has (the ones considered great, that is), and he often fights them before Pacuiao does, yet he still hasn't challenged himself, according to you.

Pacquiao fan logic at its finest.

mick557 · 12-11-2012, 11:46 AM

No. And he's not P4P no. 1 either

Ward
JMM
Floyd
Pac
Donaire

sweetray · 12-11-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by victor879

It should be pretty evident by now that Bob Arum never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring against Mayweather.

Saturday night was Exhibit A as to why.... If you think that right hand was nasty, that's something Pacquiao would eat all night against Mayweather.

Fight is and always has been a mismatch. Pacquiao would have nothing more than a puncher's chance. The idea that he would manhandle Mayweather is not based on reality, just Pactard/Floyd-hater fairy tales and dreams.

Styles makes fight. A shot Cotto hurt Floyd while losing very easy agains Pac.

JASPER · 12-11-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by victor879

It should be pretty evident by now that Bob Arum never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring against Mayweather.

Saturday night was Exhibit A as to why.... If you think that right hand was nasty, that's something Pacquiao would eat all night against Mayweather.

Fight is and always has been a mismatch. Pacquiao would have nothing more than a puncher's chance. The idea that he would manhandle Mayweather is not based on reality, just Pactard/Floyd-hater fairy tales and dreams.

This is pretty much it! Arum never, ever was gonna let that fight happened until he thought that he could not milk manny career anymore. Unfortunately, for him he miscalculated the threat JMM posed and lost out at the final big payday

. I love Manny but I have said it hundreds of times in the past; his foot work is shit and a master boxer will be able to time his movements." JMM was doing that for the most part in the first 3 fights and finished the deal this time. I feel bad for manny, he should have got away from arum a long time ago

alakran · 12-11-2012, 11:48 AM

Mayweather is the best h2h but p4p #1 should be Marquez, Mayweather hasnt fought in a long time and no one has a better win than Marquez right now since Wards last fight was agains Dawson out of the SMW division

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12-10-2012, 02:05 PM	#4834
gyll Undetectable ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,945 vCash: 500	Re: hey fillipinos/pactards I like the old guy right in front of Pac. It's like he thinks the extra momentum is delayed and is expecting Pac to crash into him eventually. Either that or he's trying to hold Pac in his arms but his old legs won't bring him into the ring.
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12-10-2012, 02:05 PM	#4835
VivaNazVegas Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,156 vCash: 585	Re: hey fillipinos/pactards Even though it says so under his name, I have a feeling freddy-wak is not a real moderator
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12-10-2012, 03:03 PM	#4837
leftleftright Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 243 vCash: 915	Re: The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!! I really feel for Manny. I can't stand the pactard irrational invincibility logic, but a bunch of pseudo-Pacquiao fans who used to cheer for him are now talking shit. Nothing has changed. Manny is what he always was -- an aggressive fighter with good hand and foot speed, who puts a lot into his punches, but makes lots of mistakes. When he was a bit younger he could get away with more of them, but he has never looked good against elite technical fighters. Manny needs a tune up or two to look good in the ring. He should fight Berto next. Berto is a good match-up being a former champ. They're both coming off losses and Manny would knock him out. Then a second fight could be Malignaggi or Guerrero. I'd prefer Paulie because I'm not sure he would look good against the Ghost and has a real chance of losing that fight. He would win a belt and then could fight Floyd. Convincing wins would put as much of the shine back on the Mayweather fight as is possible increasing the take by 10s of millions. The split right now is probably closer to 80/20 than 50/50. He will lose to Floyd just as he would have at any point in time. After the Mayweather loss he can finally wrap it up with Marquez V. He and Marquez put on a great show everytime and both have a chance to win. He should not do Marquez V before Mayweather because he never looks good against Marquez.
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12-10-2012, 03:04 PM	#4838
leftleftright Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 243 vCash: 915	Re: The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!! Sorry -- accidentally double posted. Last edited by leftleftright; 12-10-2012 at 03:05 PM. Reason: double posted
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12-11-2012, 11:37 AM	#4839
sweetray Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,382 vCash: 1000	Is this the way that Mayweather is pound for pound the best ? It is a shame to be considered pound for pound the best by being a coward. Floyd should of have fought Pac but instead, he waited for other to do what he should have done. Is this the way to consider a boxer pound for pound the best ? even when he avoids the toughest challenges and expects the best to lose without facing them ? If he wants to be respected he should fight Martinez instead of expecting other opponent to defeat him. What is your opinion on this ? Is Floyd a coward or not ?
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12-11-2012, 11:42 AM	#4840
victor879 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 2,480 vCash: 1000	Re: Is this the way that Mayweather is pound for pound the best ? It should be pretty evident by now that Bob Arum never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring against Mayweather. Saturday night was Exhibit A as to why.... If you think that right hand was nasty, that's something Pacquiao would eat all night against Mayweather. Fight is and always has been a mismatch. Pacquiao would have nothing more than a puncher's chance. The idea that he would manhandle Mayweather is not based on reality, just Pactard/Floyd-hater fairy tales and dreams.
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12-11-2012, 11:44 AM	#4841
Inquisitive Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 153 vCash: 500	Re: Is this the way that Mayweather is pound for pound the best ? Floyd has faced and beaten just about everyone Pacquiao has (the ones considered great, that is), and he often fights them before Pacuiao does, yet he still hasn't challenged himself, according to you. Pacquiao fan logic at its finest.
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12-11-2012, 11:46 AM	#4842
mick557 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 878 vCash: 400	Re: Is this the way that Mayweather is pound for pound the best ? No. And he's not P4P no. 1 either Ward JMM Floyd Pac Donaire
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12-11-2012, 11:48 AM	#4845
alakran Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 640 vCash: 454	Re: Is this the way that Mayweather is pound for pound the best ? Mayweather is the best h2h but p4p #1 should be Marquez, Mayweather hasnt fought in a long time and no one has a better win than Marquez right now since Wards last fight was agains Dawson out of the SMW division
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