The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

[MAG1965]

Originally Posted by ROACH

I'm not even sure he cares about his legacy at this point. I think he's all about making money without potentially embarrasing himself.

if that were the case he would have fought Pacman. Then he would have had his biggest payday. I think he cares about legacy. He just does not want to be beaten or have a chance to take a beating. I understand that, who wants a beating, but he is different than most great fighters who take the chance. That is why I think he is not in the class of great fighters.

[ROACH]

Originally Posted by MAG1965

if that were the case he would have fought Pacman. Then he would have had his biggest payday. I think he cares about legacy. He just does not want to be beaten or have a chance to take a beating. I understand that, who wants a beating, but he is different than most great fighters who take the chance. That is why I think he is not in the class of great fighters.

Well, that's what I'm saying. He would have made an enormous amount of money fighting Pacquaio, but he also might have lost in embarassing fashion.

Same with Martinez or as we will find out, Canelo. He can make an enormous amount of money fighting either of them, but Martinez will quote "crack his bones" and Canelo has a great chance of putting a beat down on a declining Mayweather.

So I think he will only fight guys like Guerrero, who just had a fan friendly fight with Berto, and is undeservingly being named "Fighter of the Year" by the RING.

While this fight will certainly not generate as much money as a fight with Pacquaio, Canelo, or Martinez, it will generate a good amount, and it's a relatively riskless fight relative to the others.

Garcia will make a great deal of money due to Garcia's highlight KOs and the 24/7 that will feature Angel Garcia.

Floyd will make millions of dollars with these fights and take very little risk.

[MAG1965]

Originally Posted by ROACH

Well, that's what I'm saying. He would have made an enormous amount of money fighting Pacquaio, but he also might have lost in embarassing fashion.

Same with Martinez or as we will find out, Canelo. He can make an enormous amount of money fighting either of them, but Martinez will quote "crack his bones" and Canelo has a great chance of putting a beat down on a declining Mayweather.

So I think he will only fight guys like Guerrero, who just had a fan friendly fight with Berto, and is undeservingly being named "Fighter of the Year" by the RING.

While this fight will certainly not generate as much money as a fight with Pacquaio, Canelo, or Martinez, it will generate a good amount, and it's a relatively riskless fight relative to the others.

Garcia will make a great deal of money due to Garcia's highlight KOs and the 24/7 that will feature Angel Garcia.

Floyd will make millions of dollars with these fights and take very little risk.

I agree. Floyd hopes to outlast everyone and then say he was undefeated and is still around when the other guys retired or lost. Although beating Marquez a few years ago has turned out to be a pretty good win seeing how Marquez just went up a notch in ranking by beating Pacman.

[Doc]

I only like this fight if Garcia beats Mathysse, other then a Canelo it's the next best thing, Garcia a Massive 140 pounder and if he proves himself against Mathysse then why the hell not.

If May is running scared of the Ginger, then Garcia is the next best thing barring Pacquiao, Marquez 2. and Champs at 154 like trout Canelo.

[vargasfan1985]

I hate Floyd but those are not bad fights IMO. I think they are better guys than he normally fights.

[PrinceN]

um ok sounds good

[The13thRound]

I cant see mayweather going anywhere near Garcia too risky a fight to go in against a big puncher I think he will avoid big punchers from now on.

[jmmpbf]

Itll be vs Canelo

[flashy k.o]

Originally Posted by Doc

I only like this fight if Garcia beats Mathysse, other then a Canelo it's the next best thing, Garcia a Massive 140 pounder and if he proves himself against Mathysse then why the hell not.

If May is running scared of the Ginger, then Garcia is the next best thing barring Pacquiao, Marquez 2. and Champs at 154 like trout Canelo.

- the winner between Garcia and Matthysse would be a good match for Floyd

- the winner between Canelo and Trout would be a very good match for Floyd

...... i hope that these fights will happen

[Beezy]

Well... I hope you;re wrong.... I would say this thread is useless and an utter waste of space... but if Garcia keeps winning, I honestly would not be surprised if this thread called it right....... I really wanted to see the Canelo fight.. but I'm stuck with the Guerrero fight.. which I won't order unless Canelo fights Trout on the undercard and Broner fights Abril or Burns.. other than that I'll puff puff pass

[ROACH]

Originally Posted by Doc

I only like this fight if Garcia beats Mathysse, other then a Canelo it's the next best thing, Garcia a Massive 140 pounder and if he proves himself against Mathysse then why the hell not.

If May is running scared of the Ginger, then Garcia is the next best thing barring Pacquiao, Marquez 2. and Champs at 154 like trout Canelo.

Haymon is not going to match Garcia up with Mathysse. That's a dangerous fight for Garcia.

Mathysse is a vicious body puncher and a good all around skilled fighter.

If anything, they will try to match Garcia up with Rios, but I'm not sure Bob Arum will allow that fight to take place.

If they can't get Rios, they might try somebody like Malinaggi. Malinaggi isn't the best style to match up against Garcia because Malinaggi has some boxing ability, but there is virtually no danger of being KOed and it's unlikely Malinaggi will win.

Haymon will preserve Garcia for Mayweather. A fight with Mathysse is too risky.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by ROACH

Haymon is not going to match Garcia up with Mathysse. That's a dangerous fight for Garcia.

Mathysse is a vicious body puncher and a good all around skilled fighter.

If anything, they will try to match Garcia up with Rios, but I'm not sure Bob Arum will allow that fight to take place.

If they can't get Rios, they might try somebody like Malinaggi. Malinaggi isn't the best style to match up against Garcia because Malinaggi has some boxing ability, but there is virtually no danger of being KOed and it's unlikely Malinaggi will win.

Haymon will preserve Garcia for Mayweather. A fight with Mathysse is too risky.

Ducking Mathysse wouldn't be out of the question, but time is a ticking and they cannot keep ducking that Mando. I can definitely see Garcia Paulie at MSG.

But I was hoping for Cotto and Paulie at 147 at MSG and Cotto pick up a belt rejuvenated so he can face Marquez later at WW.

[bjl12]

The amount of effort you people exert to hate on Floyd is insane.

Honestly, you guys are so obsessed with filling other people's minds with negative opinions of Floyd, I question your own sanity.

Anyhow, Pac got ktfo

[Bladegunner]

What time is PAC waking up?

[flashy k.o]

Originally Posted by ROACH

Haymon is not going to match Garcia up with Mathysse. That's a dangerous fight for Garcia.

Mathysse is a vicious body puncher and a good all around skilled fighter.

If anything, they will try to match Garcia up with Rios, but I'm not sure Bob Arum will allow that fight to take place.

If they can't get Rios, they might try somebody like Malinaggi. Malinaggi isn't the best style to match up against Garcia because Malinaggi has some boxing ability, but there is virtually no danger of being KOed and it's unlikely Malinaggi will win.

Haymon will preserve Garcia for Mayweather. A fight with Mathysse is too risky.

hey bro , Pacquiao got K.O'd by Marquez in 6th round ( K.O 6 ) , so u have to deal with it. Marquez's right hand landed many times on Pac's face , so it was a matter of time until a K.O will come.

I mean no offense but right now Floyd will fight Guerrero ( a top notch ww ) , meanwhile Pacquiao wants to retire cuz he's obviously on a decline way but his boss i.e the Bobfather wants to squeeze some big $$ from a 5th fight between Pac and Marquez ( V ) ! No matter what it would be the outcome of Marquez vs Pac V I'm pretty sure that it will be a 6th fight ...... sad but true