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Old 10-31-2012, 10:30 PM   #5341
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i challenged a flomo yesterday to come up with all the quotes both from pac and floyd themselves regarding this fight and he brought up arum's quotes. some of his quotes were even made-up. when i asked about the source for the pac quote saying he was afraid of needles, he can't produce one. yes i'm talking about PimpC


Okay, from what i know, Mayweather will have more excuses when it comes to just Pacquiao's and Mayweather's mouths.

All this building a stadium bull crap was all coming from Arums mouth.

I wonder who would be the one with more excuses from then to now.
We all know that Pac has agreed to blood testing and taking a lesser split.

and now, Mayweather has new ones ,

* Pacquiao's stock has dropped.

* ''Lost'' to Timothy Bradley.

* If Arum is involved, Mayweather will never fight him.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:33 PM   #5342
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1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.

All truth. Documented.


Doesn't even make sense.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:36 PM   #5343
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Okay, from what i know, Mayweather will have more excuses when it comes to just Pacquiao's and Mayweather's mouths.

All this building a stadium bull crap was all coming from Arums mouth.

I wonder who would be the one with more excuses from then to now.
We all know that Pac has agreed to blood testing and taking a lesser split.

and now, Mayweather has new ones ,

* Pacquiao's stock has dropped.

* ''Lost'' to Timothy Bradley.

* If Arum is involved, Mayweather will never fight him.
The stadium crap is the from the man that makes Pacquiao's fights aka the man that CANCELLED the Mayweather fight.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:38 PM   #5344
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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Okay, from what i know, Mayweather will have more excuses when it comes to just Pacquiao's and Mayweather's mouths.

All this building a stadium bull crap was all coming from Arums mouth.

I wonder who would be the one with more excuses from then to now.
We all know that Pac has agreed to blood testing and taking a lesser split.

and now, Mayweather has new ones ,

* Pacquiao's stock has dropped.

* ''Lost'' to Timothy Bradley.

* If Arum is involved, Mayweather will never fight him.
the stadium excuse was not even an excuse to begin with. remember during first negotiations, it was one of the plans for venue.

The site of the bout has not been finalized. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has expressed interest in bringing the fight to his new stadium as have representatives from the Superdome in New Orleans. Also in the mix is the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather bouts. Arum has also received a proposal for a 30,000-seat temporary stadium on the Las Vegas Strip across from the Wynn resort.



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Old 10-31-2012, 10:39 PM   #5345
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i just dont understand why the VERY FIRST offer wasn't accepted by Pac an Arum....it was 50/50.....i dont understand why the drug testing was such a breaking point....the very first deal was PERFECT!

The same deal he wants now.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:39 PM   #5346
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The stadium crap is the from the man that makes Pacquiao's fights aka the man that CANCELLED the Mayweather fight.
the stadium excuse was not even an excuse to begin with. remember during first negotiations, back in 2009/2010 it was one of the plans for venue.

The site of the bout has not been finalized. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has expressed interest in bringing the fight to his new stadium as have representatives from the Superdome in New Orleans. Also in the mix is the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather bouts. Arum has also received a proposal for a 30,000-seat temporary stadium on the Las Vegas Strip across from the Wynn resort.



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Old 10-31-2012, 10:40 PM   #5347
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Doesn't even make sense.
why would it lmao

it don't make sense to steal ipods from your kids and beat your baby mama

try telling them that
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:40 PM   #5348
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the stadium excuse was not even an excuse to begin with. remember during first negotiations, it was one of the plans for venue.

The site of the bout has not been finalized. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has expressed interest in bringing the fight to his new stadium as have representatives from the Superdome in New Orleans. Also in the mix is the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather bouts. Arum has also received a proposal for a 30,000-seat temporary stadium on the Las Vegas Strip across from the Wynn resort.



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Yep! and this article was back in 2009.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:45 PM   #5349
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Its true.

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The meeting with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz last November 23, 2011 at Floyd’s Gym, Las Vegas, Nevada, was indeed a successful breakthrough amidst the ongoing saga of speculations of Pacquiao and Mayweather fight. Differences between the Pacquiao and the Mayweather camp are being resolved through the plan of action designed by the Falcon Hawk Entertainment.

Falcon Hawk Entertainment is an entity formed by Joseph Jackson, Donny Rucker, and Mike Garibay that helps facilitate the Welterweight Fight of the Century as well as promotes financial arrangements, sports and music events.
Falcon Hawk Entertainment had a late evening meeting with Top Rank promoter Bob Arum at his house with Manny Pacquiao’s Adviser, Michael Koncz on November 21, 2011. The meeting paved the way to set the stage for the first meeting with Roger Mayweather and Michael Koncz at the Mandalay Bay Casino. Joseph Jackson, Donny Rucker, Roger Mayweather and Michael Koncz broke the ice between the two fighter camps. Jeff Mayweather and Roger Mayweather were instrumental in bringing Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz together to discuss crucial issues pertaining the proposed fight.

Conversation between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz at the gym meeting was a confirmation by both camps to move forward with negotiations after Falcon Hawk Entertainment assured through its investors to work along side with Bob Arum’s Top Rank and Mayweather Promotions to bring the successful Welterweight Fight of the Century.

Further arrangements by the Falcon Hawk Entertainment and the meeting by Joseph Jackson and Floyd Mayweather Jr. during the morning of the Thanksgiving Day and the day after, were cordial and set the avenue for warm and unified working relationship with Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao’s camp. Moreover, Joseph Jackson niece, Ms. Shantel Jackson is Floyd’s Mayweather’s fiancée that brings goodwill and harmony to the group.

Other entities related to Joseph Jackson and Donny Rucker include Premier Event Management and Chuck Sullivan which have contributed in generating investors from New York as further backing.

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Old 10-31-2012, 10:46 PM   #5350
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i just dont understand why the VERY FIRST offer wasn't accepted by Pac an Arum....it was 50/50.....i dont understand why the drug testing was such a breaking point....the very first deal was PERFECT!

The same deal he wants now.
it was perfect except that floyd and his team has gone on the media route to blast pac of using PEDs publicly. you don't negotiate in good faith when you are talking behind the back of your business partner. the first draft of the contract doesn't contain this extra testing that floyd wants not after their media propaganda. and pac did not actually rejected the extra test. he would get tested randomly until the day and after the fight with urine and a cut-off of 24 days with blood. floyd can't accept that and he want's a 14 days cut-off. it's a bit silly but they could have agreed on the 19 days blood cut-off. they could test immediately after the fight. they still got to be tested with urine all through out which is the actual method that catches the offenders.

but all of these does not matter now since we all know that testing is not really floyd's issue after pac has conceded the cut-off. floyd has made several excuses and has moved the goalposts each time.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:48 PM   #5351
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the stadium excuse was not even an excuse to begin with. remember during first negotiations, back in 2009/2010 it was one of the plans for venue.

The site of the bout has not been finalized. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has expressed interest in bringing the fight to his new stadium as have representatives from the Superdome in New Orleans. Also in the mix is the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather bouts. Arum has also received a proposal for a 30,000-seat temporary stadium on the Las Vegas Strip across from the Wynn resort.



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Oh yeah, that was just on top of the other excuses.

There were other excuses, like the cut is too bad, even though they were going to fight Marquez, and Bob saying he would need Floyd to move his jail sentence back to July even though Floyd already had it moved so he and Pac could fight in May
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:54 PM   #5352
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Oh yeah, that was just on top of the other excuses.

There were other excuses, like the cut is too bad, even though they were going to fight Marquez, and Bob saying he would need Floyd to move his jail sentence back to July even though Floyd already had it moved so he and Pac could fight in May
pac said it himself that he was ok with May, floyd's preferred date. remember that floyd acted that he anted the fight until floyd said he doesn't want to give any PPV share to pacquiao? what kind of shit offer is that? all the while, his team has been negotiating with cotto and they gave him a PPV upside.

so floyd gave cotto a PPV share while pac doesn't get an offer of PPV share? and you think it's a good offer from floyd? turbtime, why do you defend floyd's ducking moves everytime like how you defend oscar? are you a closet flomo also?
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:57 PM   #5353
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Floyd Mayweather jr:

''Yes, Manny Pacquiao, You're Next!''

I never said that.... don't put words into my mouth
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:02 PM   #5354
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pac said it himself that he was ok with May, floyd's preferred date. remember that floyd acted that he anted the fight until floyd said he doesn't want to give any PPV share to pacquiao? what kind of shit offer is that? all the while, his team has been negotiating with cotto and they gave him a PPV upside.

so floyd gave cotto a PPV share while pac doesn't get an offer of PPV share? and you think it's a good offer from floyd? turbtime, why do you defend floyd's ducking moves everytime like how you defend oscar? are you a closet flomo also?
Pac answers to Arum, and Arum blocked the fight from happening like he did in 2010.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:08 PM   #5355
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I never said that.... don't put words into my mouth
Bob arum put dem werds in ra gorrillaz mouf
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