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Old 11-01-2012, 08:52 AM   #5476
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Cotto had just gotten beat up by Antonio and Joshua AND weighed in @ 145.

Who "confirmed" Mosley was shot?! Antonio? Ring Magazine?

I don't know who's ducking who, but you can't say one is acting scary and not the other. And, to say Manny's wins are more legitimate than Floyd's is just stupid.
so was it better that floyd took on cotto after the margarito, clottey, pac beat-up? floyd passed-up on cotto back in 2008.

mosley was shot. it was confirmed in his actual fight with floyd. gassing up in just 3 rounds and that was after a great 2nd round. it was proven in his succeeding fight with mora and pac.

floyd has this habit of fighting guys on a down slide where the threat to him is diminished. the last time he fought a guy that is prime is ortiz and we all know that he is a mental case and a habit of quitting.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:55 AM   #5477
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Puga, Mosley turned down a fight with Mayweather 2 times. Here is video proof of the second time. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Take a breath brah.
woop de woo.. so everyone that floyd fought late, it was their fault. it was mosley's fault, it was cotto's fault. it's margarito's fault. and now it would be pac's fault. haven't you realized yet that maybe.. just maybe.. floyd has something to do with it for not fighting these guys when they mattered more?
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:56 AM   #5478
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are you saying that fighters didn't get beat up in having fights that he wins? look at pac and even just recently pong with fighting journeymen. this fight accumulates and this would take it's toll. even against mayorga, mosley sustained some damage. cotto did a good work on him as well.

floyd's formula is to fight them guys on the slide. floyd won't take on cotto back in 2008 siting cotto was not a draw and needing a vacation. he wont'fight pac from 2009 to present siting different excuses, vacation, wants all the PPV, etc....
You said Floyd retired from 2008 to mid '09 to let the top welters beat eachother up.

So during that time, who did Mosley get beat up by? It's not a difficult question to answer.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:58 AM   #5479
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so was it better that floyd took on cotto after the margarito, clottey, pac beat-up? floyd passed-up on cotto back in 2008.

mosley was shot. it was confirmed in his actual fight with floyd. gassing up in just 3 rounds and that was after a great 2nd round. it was proven in his succeeding fight with mora and pac.

floyd has this habit of fighting guys on a down slide where the threat to him is diminished. the last time he fought a guy that is prime is ortiz and we all know that he is a mental case and a habit of quitting.
The sad thing about you is that you just type shit regardless if its wrong or not. You try to base facts off of your opinion which is impossible in the real world.

How can Floyd turn down a fight with Cotto when Cotto himself said Arum never offered him a Mayweather fight. Arum never went to Cotto. Now I do have proof that Mayweather wanted Cotto and was even willing to sign an extension with Arum to fight Margarito if Arum would guarantee him 10 million for Cotto and Hatton.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #5480
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woop de woo.. so everyone that floyd fought late, it was their fault. it was mosley's fault, it was cotto's fault. it's margarito's fault. and now it would be pac's fault. haven't you realized yet that maybe.. just maybe.. floyd has something to do with it for not fighting these guys when they mattered more?
Yes it was Mosley's fault. Did you not watch the ****ing video and hear Mosley say he needed to go to the dentist? Shit..... There are many reasons why some fights don't happen at a certain time. I am not saying Mayweather is innocent in everything but he damn sure isn't 100 % or even 60% as to why.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:08 AM   #5481
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Bob is Manny's promoter. It does matter what he says. How the hell did Floyd not move when he agreed to 50/50, gloves, ring, 10 million dollar weight penalty and only offered one thing which was testing which he moved to a 14 day cut off?
Ellerbe, DLH, Schafer, Sr, Roger ect.... ALL part of Floyd's team and are advisors, Managers, trainers and promoters of Floyd Jr. So I guess it DOES matter what they say as well.

#1..the 50/50 Split, Gloves, ring and venue were ALL "MUTUALLY AGREED UPON" Terms by BOTH sides.

The weight penalty and special testing were the odd balls that came from left field which didn't help the fight become reality at all.

Again.....WHY the need for tests to begin with when Floyd was the one who was beating on his chest talking like he was going to mow PAC down....and acted as if he couldn't wait to do it.

But when the time came he flaked.....started acting real funny....acting out of character with all the accusations and demands...racial insults ect.

And the REAL hang up was the need for blood testing throughout camp....WHY?

It's not protocol in the Olympics to be so heavy on Blood testing and it's definitely NOT practice to do any invasive procedures like drawing blood on the day of ANY physical event, like boxing.

Why did Floyd stick to this demand knowing it wasn't necessary?
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:11 AM   #5482
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Puga! These are the ****ing facts! Deal with it!
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:12 AM   #5483
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floyd's vacation, losing his urge and losing 15 pounds of muscles is all pac's fault. - flomos


I thought he said PACQUIO you are next!?!

flomos will deny Floyd said that... but will still believe whatever he would say to avoid PACQUIO. Blind to the max.

I wonder what he would say after he get's back his 15lbs of Muscle?!

Actually what he needs to do is find his balls??! Seems there is not enough strength to find courage to fight pac...
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #5484
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You said Floyd retired from 2008 to mid '09 to let the top welters beat eachother up.

So during that time, who did Mosley get beat up by? It's not a difficult question to answer.
it's no secret that from 2006-2009, while floyd is a WW, he did not figure in fighting his contemporaries and just focused on hatton, vacation and marquez. all the while, these WWs are fighting each other. floyd only entered the scene in may 201 fighting an already shot mosley.

i already explained it to you. these beats up accumulate. but if you want to see some good fights where mosley got some damaged, just watch mayorga and cotto. i undertsand thta you have not seen them so come back to me afterwards.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #5485
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:16 AM   #5486
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it's no secret that from 2006-2009, while floyd is a WW, he did not figure in fighting his contemporaries and just focused on hatton, vacation and marquez. all the while, these WWs are fighting each other. floyd only entered the scene in may 201 fighting an already shot mosley.

i already explained it to you. these beats up accumulate. but if you want to see some good fights where mosley got some damaged, just watch mayorga and cotto. i undertsand thta you have not seen them so come back to me afterwards.
Mayweather wasn't retired when Mosley and Cotto fought

puga it's clear you don't watch boxing, only when Pac is fighting and you see that in your theater since you have no TV.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:19 AM   #5487
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Ellerbe, DLH, Schafer, Sr, Roger ect.... ALL part of Floyd's team and are advisors, Managers, trainers and promoters of Floyd Jr. So I guess it DOES matter what they say as well.

#1..the 50/50 Split, Gloves, ring and venue were ALL "MUTUALLY AGREED UPON" Terms by BOTH sides.

The weight penalty and special testing were the odd balls that came from left field which didn't help the fight become reality at all.

Again.....WHY the need for tests to begin with when Floyd was the one who was beating on his chest talking like he was going to mow PAC down....and acted as if he couldn't wait to do it.

But when the time came he flaked.....started acting real funny....acting out of character with all the accusations and demands...racial insults ect.

And the REAL hang up was the need for blood testing throughout camp....WHY?

It's not protocol in the Olympics to be so heavy on Blood testing and it's definitely NOT practice to do any invasive procedures like drawing blood on the day of ANY physical event, like boxing.

Why did Floyd stick to this demand knowing it wasn't necessary?
It's not protocol to have ridiculous weight penalties like Pac started demanding once he moved up in weight but he did it because he didn't want to get cheated. Same with Floyd and his OST. Shouldn't have been a problem, well it was for Pac, but no other fighters sadly.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:19 AM   #5488
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The sad thing about you is that you just type shit regardless if its wrong or not. You try to base facts off of your opinion which is impossible in the real world.

How can Floyd turn down a fight with Cotto when Cotto himself said Arum never offered him a Mayweather fight. Arum never went to Cotto. Now I do have proof that Mayweather wanted Cotto and was even willing to sign an extension with Arum to fight Margarito if Arum would guarantee him 10 million for Cotto and Hatton.
it was well noted back then that floyd and his team turned down cotto back in 2008 where the fight really mattered most because they think cotto is not a draw. that's a BS excuse coming from floyd's camp. everyone knows this and is not just an opinion. do you want a source?

it was the time when cotto had just beat mosley and floyd had just beat hatton and is the biggets fight in WW and pobably in the whole of boxing.

here is a cotto quote regarding the situation back then:

As for Cotto, he is hopeful that he can get either De La Hoya or Mayweather to agree to a fight. The most money would indeed be there for a fight with De La Hoya, something not lost on Cotto.

"Yeah, I know that Oscar is still a boxer who sells homes on pay-per-view," Cotto said in ever-improving English.
But a win over Mayweather would mean a win against the man perceived by most experts to be the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. And that's what Cotto really wants. He's just not sure Mayweather wants any part of him.

"If you ask Floyd for a fight with him, he always has an excuse, you know?" Cotto said. "I'm not attractive for him. I don't represent too much money for him."


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Old 11-01-2012, 09:22 AM   #5489
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Mayweather wasn't retired when Mosley and Cotto fought

puga it's clear you don't watch boxing, only when Pac is fighting and you see that in your theater since you have no TV.
where did i have said that floyd was retired then? he retired after cotto had beaten mosley and while he had beaten hatton. floyd-cotto was the biggets fight at W at that time and people are calling on it just like pac-floyd in 2009-2011.

so what did floyd do? as usual, he pulled out his lines of excuses siting that cotto is not a draw and he needs to take a vacation. turbotime, i'm surpirsed that you didn't even know about this. when did you start following boxing?
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:23 AM   #5490
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Floyd saying Pacquaio is desperate is pathetic. What does Pacquaio have to do? Damn...

Just fight the man.
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