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Old 10-30-2012, 08:48 AM   #5506
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Thia thred is about undefeated fighters, larry.
but i refuse to listen to a pac**** like puga try to down floyd while praising manny who needs a cherry tree in his yard how he cherry picks
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:50 AM   #5507
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Default Re: people say floyd cherry picks but manny is a warrior?answer me this

People just love to hate Mayweather regardless if they are nuts in their reasoning. The fact of the matter is that Floyd Mayweather has fought either the #1, #2, or #3 guy in each division that he has been in. No Vacant titles. He beat Champs each time.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:50 AM   #5508
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So you are saying that the number 1 guy in a division is not the number one guy in a division.
I'm saying you can be number one in a division. but not be the best fighter. Yes I am.

Just like you can win the superbowl and not be the best team.

You can win wimbledon and not be the best player.

I could go on.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:51 AM   #5509
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Dude just stop it. If Manny fought Garcia at 140 then he is fighting the best 140 guy in that division. Now I see why you guys hate on Mayweather bc you all are ****ing nuts.

He's fighting the number one guy.

Your the one who's nuts if you think garcia is the best fighter at 140.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:52 AM   #5510
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So because you say it that makes it so?

In my mind.

And if you think the guy who's ranked number one in every division also happens to be the best fighter in that division then go right ahead.

But I personally don't
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:52 AM   #5511
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130: Genaro, Corrales
135: Castillo X2
147: Baldomir, Mosley
154: Cotto

At 4 of his 5 weight classes, he holds completely legit claim as having beaten the then best fighter in the division.
Not much of a statement to refute. Baldomir may very well have been rated number one at 147 at the time, but, come on, it's Baldomir . He was only the number one because the 147 division was still fuzzy at the time. Mosley was up fighting at 154, and Margarito was coming through, too. Those two fighters right there were/are better and more dangerous than Baldomir has ever been.

And no, Mosley was not the then best fighter of the division. He was fought in May 2010 - when Pacquiao was the best fighter of the division.

Finally, Cotto is/was not the definite best man at 154. This division was wide open when Mayweather fought him. And it still is. I mean, how can you be the best man of your division when you've had to rely on cherry-picked fights (Foreman and Mayorga) and an unfit, damaged Margarito during your time there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Mayweather's resume here. It's still good. Very good. But let's not paint the rosey picture that he's picked the definite best people at the time in those divisions (147 and 154).
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:54 AM   #5512
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Not much of a statement to refute. Baldomir may very well have been rated number one at 147 at the time, but, come on, it's Baldomir . He was only the number one because the 147 division was still fuzzy at the time. Mosley was up fighting at 154, and Margarito was coming through, too. Those two fighters right there were/are better and more dangerous than Baldomir has ever been.

And no, Mosley was not the then best fighter of the division. He was fought in May 2010 - when Pacquiao was the best fighter of the division.

Finally, Cotto is/was not the definite best man at 154. This division was wide open when Mayweather fought him. And it still is. I mean, how can you be the best man of your division when you've had to rely on cherry-picked fights (Foreman and Mayorga) and an unfit, damaged Margarito during your time there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Mayweather's resume here. It's still good. Very good. But let's not paint the rosey picture that he's picked the best available people in those divisions (147 and 154).
Don't bother. I'm getting killed in hear by even suggesting that just cos your number 1 in the division that doesn't mean there aren't much better fighters around.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:55 AM   #5513
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

What prime atg should he have fought??please let me know
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:55 AM   #5514
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Not much of a statement to refute. Baldomir may very well have been rated number one at 147 at the time, but, come on, it's Baldomir . He was only the number one because the 147 division was still fuzzy at the time. Mosley was up fighting at 154, and Margarito was coming through, too. Those two fighters right there were/are better and more dangerous than Baldomir has ever been.

And no, Mosley was not the then best fighter of the division. He was fought in May 2010 - when Pacquiao was the best fighter of the division.

Finally, Cotto is/was not the definite best man at 154. This division was wide open when Mayweather fought him. And it still is. I mean, how can you be the best man of your division when you've had to rely on cherry-picked fights (Foreman and Mayorga) and an unfit, damaged Margarito during your time there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Mayweather's resume here. It's still good. Very good. But let's not paint the rosey picture that he's picked the definite best people at the time in those divisions (147 and 154).

but you have worded it much better than me.
Especially you assesment of Cotto being number one at Light middle.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:57 AM   #5515
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Default Re: people say floyd cherry picks but manny is a warrior?answer me this

Floyd has won 0 vacant belts.0 belts at a catchweight..he won ALL his titles from top fighters,why is he so damn underrated on him and a fighter who comes along and wins 2 titles at a catchweight and even a damn vacant belt so praised?
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:59 AM   #5516
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

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Pac beat 2 Prime ATG in MAB and Morales.
Morales was nowhere near prime for **** sakes
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:59 AM   #5517
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but i refuse to listen to a pac**** like puga try to down floyd while praising manny who needs a cherry tree in his yard how he cherry picks
Free will, larry, try to practice it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:59 AM   #5518
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147: Baldomir, Mosley - avoided margarito, cotto. Didn't fight pacquiao nor was there a fight with paul williams
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:02 AM   #5519
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

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Guys, the list of boxers with wins over prime ATG's isn't a long ****ing list.
Best post so far
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:02 AM   #5520
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147: Baldomir, Mosley - avoided margarito, cotto. Didn't fight pacquiao nor was there a fight with paul williams
Mosley will go down as a better welter out of Margarito, Cotto, and himself.
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