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Old 11-01-2012, 12:47 AM   #5836
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already told you that pac said that may is not an issue. i gave you an instance that pac's choice of time frame and opponent override that of arum. i can give you another one just recenlt when arum wanted pac to fight this november but pac moved it to december to wait for floyd's response. pac would be the one fighting and not arum and arum has no choice if pac wants a certain date and that time pac mentioned he has no problem with floyd's preferred date countless of times.

only issue is floyd offering an offer that does not give pac a PPV share. do you think its a serious a generous offer? if you think so, then you must be a flomo as well.
Dude you are not making any kind of sense. Just stop it. Manny can do no wrong in your eyes. If Manny's choice overrides Arum then Manny would have made Arum negotiate for that May 5th fight. Bottom line. Manny doesn't run shit.

Just to prove to you Manny doesn't run shit I am going to share with you a quick example.

Manny Pacquiao hired a company to investigate his finances and that investigation proved that Manny had no copies of bout contracts and was getting advances. Arum told him to fire them and Manny did. Koncz got a house out the deal and Manny was suppose to pay VisionQuest back and didn't and got sued. Now tell me again who runs shit around there bc it damn sure isn't Manny.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:50 AM   #5837
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already told you that pac said that may is not an issue. i gave you an instance where pac's choice of time frame and opponent override that of arum. i can give you another one just recenlty when arum wanted pac to fight this november but pac moved it to december to wait for floyd's response. pac would be the one fighting and not arum and arum has no choice if pac wants a certain date. and during that time pac mentioned he has no problem with floyd's preferred date countless of times.

only issue was floyd giving an offer that does not gave pac a PPV share. do you think its a serious and generous offer? if you think so, then you must be a flomo as well.

Yes. He is.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:51 AM   #5838
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Dude you are not making any kind of sense. Just stop it. Manny can do no wrong in your eyes. If Manny's choice overrides Arum then Manny would have made Arum negotiate for that May 5th fight. Bottom line. Manny doesn't run shit.

Just to prove to you Manny doesn't run shit I am going to share with you a quick example.

Manny Pacquiao hired a company to investigate his finances and that investigation proved that Manny had no copies of bout contracts and was getting advances. Arum told him to fire them and Manny did. Koncz got a house out the deal and Manny was suppose to pay VisionQuest back and didn't and got sued. Now tell me again who runs shit around there bc it damn sure isn't Manny.
what does it have to do with Floyds? leave Pac alone with his parasites,.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:59 AM   #5839
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Dude you are not making any kind of sense. Just stop it. Manny can do no wrong in your eyes. If Manny's choice overrides Arum then Manny would have made Arum negotiate for that May 5th fight. Bottom line. Manny doesn't run shit.

Just to prove to you Manny doesn't run shit I am going to share with you a quick example.

Manny Pacquiao hired a company to investigate his finances and that investigation proved that Manny had no copies of bout contracts and was getting advances. Arum told him to fire them and Manny did. Koncz got a house out the deal and Manny was suppose to pay VisionQuest back and didn't and got sued. Now tell me again who runs shit around there bc it damn sure isn't Manny.
this is rich coming from you. you have defended floyd and has no problem twisting stories and even making them up since last night.

i already gave you two instances that arum cannot always force pac to fight at certain dates that he wants. if pac wants a certain date or opponent, arum has no choice but to oblige. first is the jmm rematch at 130 when arum wanted diaz at 135. second is the november date and arum has no coice but to wait and move it to december when pac was waiting for floyd is the figth can be made next year. pac does the fighting and not arum.

so when would floyd replenish his 15 pounds of muscles and fight again? why do you keep ducking my questions like floyd does pac?
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:59 AM   #5840
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what does it have to do with Floyds? leave Pac alone with his parasites,.
Puga said that Manny overrides Arum yet Manny wouldn't make Arum negotiate for the May 5th date against Mayweather which proves that Manny doesn't run shit..
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:00 AM   #5841
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this is rich coming from you. you have defended floyd and has no problem twisting stories and even making them up since last night.

i already gave you two instances that arum cannot always force pac to fight at certain dates that he wants. if pac wants a certain date or opponent, arum has no choice but to oblige. first is the jmm rematch at 130 when arum wanted diaz at 135. second is the november date and arumhas no coice but to wait and move it to december when pac was waiting for floyd is the figth can be made next year.

pac does the fighting and not arum.
Puga how have I defended Floyd when I am the one who said they are all at fault for this fight not happening including Floyd. You on the other hand said Manny isn't. Rich
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:05 AM   #5842
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the other camp keeps moving goal post. doesnt even take brains to figure everything out, common sense will do.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:06 AM   #5843
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Puga said that Manny overrides Arum yet Manny wouldn't make Arum negotiate for the May 5th date against Mayweather which proves that Manny doesn't run shit..
ho would he negotiate for a fight when floyd already made a joke of an offer all the while, they were negotiating with cotto?
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:10 AM   #5844
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:11 AM   #5845
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the other camp keeps moving goal post. doesnt even take brains to figure everything out, common sense will do.
this.

floyd: pac needs to take a test
pac: ok i'll take a full urine test with 24 days cut-off on blood
floyd: no you can't do that, 14 days cut-off on blood
pac: ok i would take the full testing
floyd: ok but i'm on vacation right now and has no urge to fight

floyd: pac you're next, can you take an offer without PPV?
pac: no but can you take 55-45 or 60-40 to the winner?
floyd: no way.

pac: ok floyd let's fight december or early next year after your jail
floyd: i just lost 15 pounds and needs more time
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:11 AM   #5846
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ho would he negotiate for a fight when floyd already made a joke of an offer all the while, they were negotiating with cotto?
Talk to my promoter Puga. Once again Manny had to fire the people he hired to look into his finances bc Arum said so and you think Manny runs the ship?

So if Manny runs things then why did Manny sit back while Arum made all those excuses why they couldn't make the fight for May 5th? I guess based off of your Manny runs things logic, Manny didn't want to fight May 5th. Glad you admitted it.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:14 AM   #5847
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this.

floyd: pac needs to take a test
pac: ok i'll take a full urine test with 24 days cut-off on blood
floyd: no you can't do that, 14 days cut-off on blood
pac: ok i would take the full testing
floyd: ok but i'm on vacation right now and has no urge to fight

floyd: pac you're next, can you take an offer without PPV?
pac: no but can you take 55-45 or 60-40 to the winner?
floyd: no way.

pac: ok floyd let's fight december or early next year after jail
floyd: i just lost 15 pounds and needs more time

Pacquiao's one would probably be afraid of needles but either way Mayweather out numbers Pacquiao's excuses lol
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:16 AM   #5848
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this.

floyd: pac needs to take a test
pac: ok i'll take a full urine test with 24 days cut-off on blood
floyd: no you can't do that, 14 days cut-off on blood
pac: ok i would take the full testing
floyd: ok but i'm on vacation right now and has no urge to fight

floyd: pac you're next, can you take an offer without PPV?
pac: no but can you take 55-45 or 60-40 to the winner?
floyd: no way.

pac: ok floyd let's fight december or early next year after your jail
floyd: i just lost 15 pounds and needs more time
Look at you lying again Puga. I could rip this shit up easy. You trying to change history.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:23 AM   #5849
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Look at you lying again Puga. I could rip this shit up easy. You trying to change history.
lying, floyd always moves the goal post and goes into vacations. can you even refute that?
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:26 AM   #5850
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Talk to my promoter Puga. Once again Manny had to fire the people he hired to look into his finances bc Arum said so and you think Manny runs the ship?

So if Manny runs things then why did Manny sit back while Arum made all those excuses why they couldn't make the fight for May 5th? I guess based off of your Manny runs things logic, Manny didn't want to fight May 5th. Glad you admitted it.

didn't floyd said on that telephone conversation that he asked pac "what if i lose?" that's why he is trying to dupe pac into accepting that low-ball of an offer.
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