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Old 07-22-2011, 03:44 PM   #706
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Pacquiao and it's not even close.

I don't give a flying **** about the "0", that's a SMALL factor in the equation.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:48 PM   #707
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If you look on paper you would say Manny of course, but when you dig a little deeper........

Barrera - not at his peak
Morales - LOST
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
Morales - faded by then
Diaz - B class fighter
Oscar - weight drained
Hatton - Chin was eroded by then
Clottey - B class fighter
Cotto - damaged from Margarito
Mosley - faded well before Pac


When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded


FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!

PAC DOES NOT!!! No Freddie Roach fighter does

Amir Khan beat Barrera, do you all think he has a great resume because of it!!?? Barrera was faded, even though he's an A class fighter on paper look at how he was in the fight, way past his best. AND THAT CAN BE SAID FOR ALL PACQUIAO OPPONENTS
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:51 PM   #708
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If you look on paper you would say Manny of course, but when you dig a little deeper........

Barrera - not at his peak
Morales - LOST
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
Morales - faded by then
Diaz - B class fighter
Oscar - weight drained
Hatton - Chin was eroded by then
Clottey - B class fighter
Cotto - damaged from Margarito
Mosley - faded well before Pac


When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded


FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!

PAC DOES NOT!!! No Freddie Roach fighter does

Amir Khan beat Barrera, do you all think he has a great resume because of it!!?? Barrera was faded, even though he's an A class fighter on paper look at how he was in the fight, way past his best. AND THAT CAN BE SAID FOR ALL PACQUIAO OPPONENTS

This is so ridiculously biased! Look at the desc. for Pac's opponents, and what you did for Floyd. Not a shred of objectivity.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:57 PM   #709
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If you look on paper you would say Manny of course, but when you dig a little deeper........

Barrera - not at his peak
Morales - LOST
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
Morales - faded by then
Diaz - B class fighter
Oscar - weight drained
Hatton - Chin was eroded by then
Clottey - B class fighter
Cotto - damaged from Margarito
Mosley - faded well before Pac


When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded


FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!

PAC DOES NOT!!! No Freddie Roach fighter does

Amir Khan beat Barrera, do you all think he has a great resume because of it!!?? Barrera was faded, even though he's an A class fighter on paper look at how he was in the fight, way past his best. AND THAT CAN BE SAID FOR ALL PACQUIAO OPPONENTS
your reasoning is quite retarded. so you actually think that barrera that pacquiao fought was the same quality as the barrera that khan fought?

and you have put quite a spin on you're list that you must be dizzy yourself. you should have changed your handle name from hitman-fan to money mayweather-fan.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:06 PM   #710
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When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded

FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!
He LOST that first fight to Castillo, but I digress...

What are guys like Ndou and Corley doing on this list?

Gatti is "B Class" but Judah was "A Class" coming off a loss to a journeyman?

Mitchell was in his prime after getting owned by Tszyu (in better fashion than Mayweather)?

De La Hoya was in his prime? Sure, he wasn't weight drained - but he was NOT prime!

Marquez - really? He was promised a catchweight of 144, which Floyd didn't even TRY to make. That took away the ONLY possible shred of competetiveness to that matchup.

You're skewing the story here, one could do the same for Pacquiao (or anybody else). The fact is that Floyd was great at 130-135, but has only been "good" to "really good" at 140+ based mostly on his lack of prime, elite competition and inactivity.

Say what you will, but Pac has fought guys that Floyd avoided, period. Floyd wasn't calling out guys like Tszyu at 140 or Cotto, Margarito, Clottey at 147. Pacquiao was fighting avoided guys like JMM at 126 when he was one of those "high risk, low reward" fighters that he didn't have to face. At 135+ Pac has taken on legitimate challenges as a much smaller man. Yes there were catchweights but the bottom line is he fought the cream of the crop and dominated. He fought Hatton at HIS REAL WEIGHT - and I don't believe this shit about his chin being eroded or him being "ruined" because he lost once before to Mayweather. Also, Pac fought Cotto and Margo - two guys Floyd "retired" to avoid.

Pac's resume is better than Floyd's. Even the biased Teddy Atlas admitted that on ESPN "First Take".
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:26 PM   #711
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Mayweather biggest win isn't corralles

You don't know shit about boxing.
then who?
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:40 PM   #712
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If you look on paper you would say Manny of course, but when you dig a little deeper........

Barrera - not at his peak
Morales - LOST
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
Morales - faded by then
Diaz - B class fighter
Oscar - weight drained
Hatton - Chin was eroded by then
Clottey - B class fighter
Cotto - damaged from Margarito
Mosley - faded well before Pac


When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded


FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!

PAC DOES NOT!!! No Freddie Roach fighter does

Amir Khan beat Barrera, do you all think he has a great resume because of it!!?? Barrera was faded, even though he's an A class fighter on paper look at how he was in the fight, way past his best. AND THAT CAN BE SAID FOR ALL PACQUIAO OPPONENTS
This is the most laughable shit I've read all day. Thx for that.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:03 PM   #713
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If you look on paper you would say Manny of course, but when you dig a little deeper........

Barrera - not at his peak
Morales - LOST
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
Morales - faded by then
Diaz - B class fighter
Oscar - weight drained
Hatton - Chin was eroded by then
Clottey - B class fighter
Cotto - damaged from Margarito
Mosley - faded well before Pac


When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded


FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!

PAC DOES NOT!!! No Freddie Roach fighter does

Amir Khan beat Barrera, do you all think he has a great resume because of it!!?? Barrera was faded, even though he's an A class fighter on paper look at how he was in the fight, way past his best. AND THAT CAN BE SAID FOR ALL PACQUIAO OPPONENTS
You might think you've typed out a great post, but you haven't. It's one of the worst I've ever seen, in fact. It's that bad. But congrats! ...and I wouldn't expect somebody like you to know who Chatchai Sasakul or Lehlohonolo Ledwaba are, but let me assure you, they were better than trash like Phillip N'dou or fighters such as Corley, Mitchell, Gatti, Baldomir, etc. or even a badly faded, 10 ****ing years past his best version of Mosley.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:29 PM   #714
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Anyone saying Mayweather is a joke. End of debate.
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If you look on paper you would say Manny of course, but when you dig a little deeper........

Barrera - not at his peak
Morales - LOST
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
JMM - Lost but got lucky decision
Morales - faded by then
Diaz - B class fighter
Oscar - weight drained
Hatton - Chin was eroded by then
Clottey - B class fighter
Cotto - damaged from Margarito
Mosley - faded well before Pac


When you look at Floyd

Harnandez - in his prime - WBC
Vargas - in his prime - WBC
Corrlaes - never been put down, never stopped, both done by Floyd and in Corrales' prime
Chavez - in his prime
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten with toen rotator cuff
Castillo - A class fighter in his prime, beaten even more convincingly
Ndou - undefeated, in his prime. Ko'd
Corley - another weight division, in his prime - down in 8th and 10th
Gatti - B class fighter, but yes he was faded
Mitchell - TKO's in 6 in hius prime
Judah - in his prime - A class fighter
De La Hoya - NOT weight drained like Pac had, at 154, strong, A class fighter
Hatton - undefeated, pretty much in his prime, good chin, Ko'd
Marquez - A class fighter but the wrong weight
Mosley - A class fighter but faded


FMJ has the best resume and it's not even close because Floyd fights people IN THERE PRIME!!!

PAC DOES NOT!!! No Freddie Roach fighter does

Amir Khan beat Barrera, do you all think he has a great resume because of it!!?? Barrera was faded, even though he's an A class fighter on paper look at how he was in the fight, way past his best. AND THAT CAN BE SAID FOR ALL PACQUIAO OPPONENTS
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57 people would vote the same way if Pacquiao knocked off top fighters for five more years and Mayweather retired after Ortiz.
When is Pacquiao going to start knocking off top fighters?
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not really. Only 18 plus percent, not much.
81.25%.
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Oh great....the "coming off a loss" excuse. Yes, that means any fighter coming off a loss is automatically much less great then he was right before, sucks, and a totally different boxing. Rip, you are just one pointless little shit. But hey, blizz seems to like you. He'll tell you how great you are.
I thought I was a waist of time, and something about a bum's ass?
You should get a tattoo that says "ripcity".
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no one is underestimating floyd's overall competition. it was very good. it's just the case that pacquiao has the clear greater competition. you can hardly call anyone who pac should have fought at the time he was on a certain weight class. i can list at least 3 or 4 guys floyd should have fought in his entire career.

and you are stupid to think those who are voting for pacquiao are only filipinos. just look at the list and see that the ones voting for floyds are known floyd fans and those who votes for pacquiao are either his fans or neutral ones.
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And you continue to do nothing but cheerlead. Pretty sad what you are now, the very same shit poster you always cried about.
You cry in every post. I troll posters with posts like yours......and I have fun doing it too.
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