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Old 08-11-2011, 01:47 AM   #796
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that fight is far from here.

I think Pac beats Floyd, but it's a close fight. I still think Floyd has the size advantage on Pac because Pac only comes in the ring around 148. So Pac has to beat not only Floyd but also the size.

if you're so sure about your pick, I can make a lifetime bet with you that Floyd will not stop Pacquiao.
so is this your excuse if he loses?

what if Floyd don't impose his so significant size advantage...whats the excuse then?
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:04 AM   #797
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so is this your excuse if he loses?

what if Floyd don't impose his so significant size advantage...whats the excuse then?
Is saying that Floyd is bigger than Manny an excuse or a fact? Pac comes in at 148lbs on fight night, Floyd much more than that. It's not some bullshit excuse I'm making up.

Floyd won't use his size to impose himself on Pacquiao but he might use his size to prevent Pacquiao from imposing himself on Floyd.


Anyways I expect Pac to win anyways so I'll give Floyd credit if he does better than what I expect like I always do.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:07 AM   #798
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Is saying that Floyd is bigger than Manny an excuse or a fact? Pac comes in at 148lbs on fight night, Floyd much more than that. It's not some bullshit excuse I'm making up.

Floyd won't use his size to impose himself on Pacquiao but he might use his size to prevent Pacquiao from imposing himself on Floyd.


Anyways I expect Pac to win anyways so I'll give Floyd credit if he does better than what I expect like I always do.
margarito couldn't use his size on pac, how the fuck can mayweather use his size against pac.

Mayweather gonna use his size to help his defence?

The only thing mayweather would use is his skill, that's it.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:10 AM   #799
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margarito couldn't use his size on pac, how the fuck can mayweather use his size against pac.

Mayweather gonna use his size to help his defence?

The only thing mayweather would use is his skill, that's it.
Margarito and Floyd have completely different styles. As a defensive fighter you can use your size and strength to keep your opponent off balance and prevent him from getting inside or to tie him up when he gets in range to make damage.

A quick jab against a smaller fighter might stop him in his tracks whereas that same punch against a bigger stronger fighter might not.

Not just for Pacquiao / Maywaether the same thing applies to everyone. A good example I can think of is Arce vs Mijares.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:13 AM   #800
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Margarito and Floyd have completely different styles. As a defensive fighter you can use your size and strength to keep your opponent off balance and prevent him from getting inside or to tie him up when he gets in range to make damage.

A quick jab against a smaller fighter might stop him in his tracks whereas that same punch against a bigger stronger fighter might not.
A quick jab is skill not size.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:14 AM   #801
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Is saying that Floyd is bigger than Manny an excuse or a fact? Pac comes in at 148lbs on fight night, Floyd much more than that. It's not some bullshit excuse I'm making up.

Floyd won't use his size to impose himself on Pacquiao but he might use his size to prevent Pacquiao from imposing himself on Floyd.


Anyways I expect Pac to win anyways so I'll give Floyd credit if he does better than what I expect like I always do.

so what he has fought fighters bigger than Floyd and won handidly...size shouldnt matter as it isnt a gigantic size disparity.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:15 AM   #802
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Margarito and Floyd have completely different styles. As a defensive fighter you can use your size and strength to keep your opponent off balance and prevent him from getting inside or to tie him up when he gets in range to make damage.

A quick jab against a smaller fighter might stop him in his tracks whereas that same punch against a bigger stronger fighter might not.
Yeah you could if the boxer you're facing is a shit boxer. If a boxer can't control his balance based on his opponents size that doesn't show much versatility does it Philla?
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A quick jab is skill not size.
you know why he's playing the size card.....he knows why as well...him and his favorite fighter keep excuses locked and loaded.
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A quick jab is skill not size.
you missed the point. That same jab landing on a bigger opponent might not be enough to keep him off, but it might be enough to stop a smaller opponent in his tracks. That's where size comes in.
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Yeah you could if the boxer you're facing is a shit boxer. If a boxer can't control his balance based on his opponents size that doesn't show much versatility does it Philla?
Like I said I expect Pacquiao to win despite the disadvantage. And it's not like he's facing just anyone, I've always said that Mayweather is a great boxer.

And what you said kind of indicates you have a low opinion of Floyd. You think he can only use his size to keep his opponent off balance if he's facing a shit boxer?
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:18 AM   #806
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you know why he's playing the size card.....he knows why as well...him and his favorite fighter keep excuses locked and loaded.
I just find it ironic, that pac has beaten bigger men than floyd, more aggressive men than floyd, yet it's floyd size that would win him the fight against pac. This shit is just retarded.
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you know why he's playing the size card.....he knows why as well...him and his favorite fighter keep excuses locked and loaded.
Like I said is it an excuse that Pacquiao is smaller or a fact? Pac comes in at 148lbs on fight night. It's not some bullshit I'm making up.
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I just find it ironic, that pac has beaten bigger men than floyd, more aggressive men than floyd, yet it's floyd size that would win him the fight against pac. This shit is just retarded.
Pac has beaten bigger men than Floyd but they were not as good as Floyd. Floyd is better than the Clottey's and Margarito's of this world
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:22 AM   #809
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you missed the point. That same jab landing on a bigger opponent might not be enough to keep him off, but it might be enough to stop a smaller opponent in his tracks. That's where size comes in.
I hear exactly what you are saying, you are basically saying pac isn't good enough to escape floyd's jab, which he rarely uses in fights.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:24 AM   #810
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I hear exactly what you are saying, you are basically saying pac isn't good enough to escape floyd's jab, which he rarely uses in fights.
Against MArquez, who like Pacquiao is a smaller fighter than FLoyd, Mayweather threw 316 jabs and only 177 power punches.

Yet you think Floyd rarely uses the jab.

It seems like Floyd would agree with me, not with you.


and I'm not saying Pac is not good enough to escape Floyd's jab. Like I said I expect Pac to win anyways. I'm just saying he has to beat both Floyd and the size. Which once again I expect him to be able to do it successfully.

The only reason I brought this up is to explain to sds why I think it's a close fight. Even if I'm a fan of PAcquiao I still predict results with my head not my heart.
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