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Old 08-04-2011, 05:08 PM   #871
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like I said I'm talking about number of punches landed and number received, not necessarily accuracy.


look at it this way if we fight for one round and I land 15 out of 60 punches on you and you land 5 out of 10 on me... who is better at hitting who and not getting hit?

Are you better because you landed 50% while I landed 25% or am I better cause I landed 3 times more punches than you did.
I've already answered this post, scroll further up.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:09 PM   #872
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Not even a 14-day window?
Let's compromise to 7.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:10 PM   #873
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He missed all night swinging at Mosley. And Mosley simply circled away and had him lost. If Mosley could have pulled the trigger Pac would have been in a world of hurt. Look at his fight with Cotto when he was moving and it frustrated the hell outta Manny. All he hid was fallow Cotto around not cutting the ring off. Manny can't cut off a ring to save his life and you ****ing know it.
Oh god... He made Mosley want to quit FFS...
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:11 PM   #874
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Pac is better at hitting his opponents than Floyd is. Way better. He lands a lot more punches on his opponents than Floyd does. I'm not talking about accuracy but number of punches landed which is what hitting is all about, landing as many punches as possible.

Pacquiao outlands his opponents by a larger margin than Floyd does. Hit and don't get it is about landing as many punches as possible while taking as little as possible in return. That's what Pac is the best at right now in the entire sport. If you were talking about only not getting hit, Floyd is better than Pac. But hit and don't get hit, Pac has Floyd beat.
Mayweather has a way better percentage of landed/thrown than Pacquiao. Also has a way better percentage of opponents shots not landing/thrown. How is Pacquiao better at hitting and not getting hit? You could look at a fight and tell this easily.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:11 PM   #875
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Yeah he did but Cotto fought the dumbest fight he had since Margo. He should have moved and boxed with Pac instead he thought he could simply overpower him. His movement later in the fight frustrated Cotto and gave him trouble. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that movement gives Pac trouble.
Check the punch stats in those late rounds.

Pacquiao was landing 30+ punches per round
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:12 PM   #876
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Cotto's movement later in the fight gave Pac trouble yet Pac managed to get the stoppage in the 12th and didn't lose a single round late in the fight on all 3 scorecards. That's a whole shitload of trouble.

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You mean a bullshit stoppage that Cotto should have been allowed to contiune and could have made it through to the end? Yeah whatever. Cotto isn't the greatest at fighting off his back foot and moving but he still made Pac look like shit at times while doing so. What's so hard to see about that? Now get a guy who can fight like that for 12 rounds and Pac is in a world of shit and would get dominated.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:13 PM   #877
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Cotto's movement later in the fight gave Pac trouble yet Pac managed to get the stoppage in the 12th and didn't lose a single round late in the fight on all 3 scorecards. That's a whole shitload of trouble.

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Cotto would get messed up when he went to the ropes. When he was moving around though, he was beating Pac in round 10 and 2 of the judges gave it to him
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:15 PM   #878
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Oh god... He made Mosley want to quit FFS...
He made him want to quit because Mosley was shot but if you actually watched the fight Mosley was very effective with his movement. He just didn't have the legs and couldn't pull the trigger to fully capitalize on it. In other workds he had a sound gameplan but was too shot to execute it.
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You mean a bullshit stoppage that Cotto should have been allowed to contiune and could have made it through to the end? Yeah whatever. Cotto isn't the greatest at fighting off his back foot and moving but he still made Pac look like shit at times while doing so. What's so hard to see about that? Now get a guy who can fight like that for 12 rounds and Pac is in a world of shit and would get dominated.
Now it was a bullshit stoppage... First Shane was making Pac look bad despite wanting to quit, now Pac only beat Cotto on a bullshit stoppage. And you wonder why people look at you as a fanboy? No objectivity at all.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:15 PM   #880
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Anyone who thinks Manny is so wrong its not funny and thats pretty much fact.
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He made him want to quit because Mosley was shot but if you actually watched the fight Mosley was very effective with his movement. He just didn't have the legs and couldn't pull the trigger to fully capitalize on it. In other workds he had a sound gameplan but was too shot to execute it.
He made him want to quit because he was beating beat up.
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He made him want to quit because he was beating beat up.
So let me guess Mosley being shot had nothing to do with that right? Why can't you admit that Mosley's gameplan was sound?
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Pac can deal with movement guy look at all the movement Mosley gave him and he still got completely shut out.
Where was the versatility in the Marquez fights, and first Morales fight?
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:20 PM   #884
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So let me guess Mosley being shot had nothing to do with that right? Why can't you admit that Mosley's gameplan was sound?
I never said it didn't. Mosely barely had any chance to employ his gameplan that you think was working so well.
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Yeah he did but Cotto fought the dumbest fight he had since Margo. He should have moved and boxed with Pac instead he thought he could simply overpower him. His movement later in the fight frustrated Cotto and gave him trouble. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that movement gives Pac trouble.
Cotto had the right idea offensively, he just couldn't make Pacquiao miss. Pacquiao actually showed versatility in that fight.
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