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Old 08-06-2011, 05:24 PM   #1021
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Pac is VERY successful in the boxing game- but all of his fights exhibit the same style. He is VERY effective at what he does but he has only ever needed to fight one way. His match ups are against guys who get in there and are fine trading to deliver punches. He has never had to adapt because people always fight HIS game.

Floyd has fought swarmers, boxers, slicksters, power punchers, bigger opponents, had less reach, outsped fast opponents, he himself WAS outsped, but Floyd's versatilty allows him to evaluate and adapt round to round. Floyd has not won every round he has ever fought, but he has managed a way to win EVERY fight due largely to his versatility and his ability to be a thinking fighter.

This thread, i'd like to remind people is not a Floyd KO Pac or Pac KO Floyd, it is about versatility. Floyd > Pac in versatility (it is my opinion Floyd will win if they meet unless Pacs closes it early, but even that opinion aside, on resilience and depth of his game) Floyd is the more versatile fighter.
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Old 08-06-2011, 06:02 PM   #1022
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potshot, move, potshot, move, counter, potshot, move, counter, its the roy jones jr. formula with a bit of james toney thrown in.

Floyd can't do what Pacquiao can do and vice versa. Totally different fighters. But Floyd has the more versatile style, overall. He isn't ****in Bruce Lee though.
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Old 08-06-2011, 06:25 PM   #1023
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:41 AM   #1024
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:51 AM   #1025
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lol..

Floyd does this with Ortiz and he gonna fuk him up..

I think he will be able to fight like this...I dont see Ortiz having the speed nor the footwork to be able to do what he wants...

in re to the thread title, Floyd is more versatile...

This does not make Manny any less of a fighter though...less of a "boxer"...maybe...but no less of a fighter...

Pac can do things like put guys to sleep, with hard punches, coming from a weird angle....just looking at the opposing point of view (see Hatton-Pac for source)
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:54 AM   #1026
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Floyd is better than Pac is some areas while Pac is better than Floyd in other areas. That's not too hard to accept. Regarding versatility, Floyd is more versatile.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:53 PM   #1027
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The only category Floyd can't hold a candle to Pac is as a crowd-pleaser.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:13 PM   #1028
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People who say Pacquiao are delusional.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:27 PM   #1029
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Okay checking back in, so far the only good evidence(I did like the video no doubt I just dont think it proves the point) that has been given that the defensive counter punching Floyd's versatility is that stopped the two punch combination that Shane was relying on with defense and counter punching. Wow that is versatility. The defensive counter puncher used defense and counter punching. Honestly as pretty as it was there is nothing versatile about what he did. It is his game.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:40 PM   #1030
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Okay checking back in, so far the only good evidence(I did like the video no doubt I just dont think it proves the point) that has been given that the defensive counter punching Floyd's versatility is that stopped the two punch combination that Shane was relying on with defense and counter punching. Wow that is versatility. The defensive counter puncher used defense and counter punching. Honestly as pretty as it was there is nothing versatile about what he did. It is his game.
Against Marquez and Eric Morales, where was Pacquiaos versatility?
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:57 PM   #1031
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Okay checking back in, so far the only good evidence(I did like the video no doubt I just dont think it proves the point) that has been given that the defensive counter punching Floyd's versatility is that stopped the two punch combination that Shane was relying on with defense and counter punching. Wow that is versatility. The defensive counter puncher used defense and counter punching. Honestly as pretty as it was there is nothing versatile about what he did. It is his game.
See most of the guys in the this picking Pacquiao are doing so because they think Pac is versatile, but they also realize that Floyd is also.
You seem to think Floyd is one dimensional though
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:18 PM   #1032
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this is not even a contest. A non boxing fan can tell that floyd is more versatile. Pac got 4 main things behind him that makes him great. 1) speed, 2) power, 3) stamina, 4) No fear to pull the trigger. Every other aspect Floyd is head and shoulder above pac.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:17 PM   #1033
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Against Marquez and Eric Morales, where was Pacquiaos versatility?
Long time ago. The only versatility Floyd has shown is when fighting much smaller fighters. People keep confusing adaptation to versatility. Floyd is a defensive fighter. He adapts his defense to take away what his opponent is doing. That does not equal versatility. He is still a defensive counter puncher.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:19 PM   #1034
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this is not even a contest. A non boxing fan can tell that floyd is more versatile. Pac got 4 main things behind him that makes him great. 1) speed, 2) power, 3) stamina, 4) No fear to pull the trigger. Every other aspect Floyd is head and shoulder above pac.
There is a lot more going on there than speed, power, stamina, and no fear. You are ignorant. Watch his fights some time. By around the 7th or 8th round guys are afraid to punch. He's been countering and intercepting so many of their punches that they give up.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:24 PM   #1035
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He's been countering and intercepting so many of their punches that they give up.
That sounds more like a Mayweather fight than Pacquiao.
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