The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

[Devildoc]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Only been officilly knocked down 1 time in 42 fights...been boxing since he was a few years old..yea his skill is overrated.

Pactards at it again.

LOL..in the mean time Arum is setting up JMM Pac 4 to avoid Floyd Mayweather.

LOL Arum and Team Pac wasn't the one who only offered 40mill and no ppv shares to the opponent. Of course JMM4 will happen. The Great Afro Americano Don't want nothing to do with the midget from asia.

[Overhill]

Lack of ambition. Way too good for 147.

[Stinky gloves]

Originally Posted by Overhill

Lack of ambition. Way too good for 147.

or maybe to naive to think he is the best at 147 ....
otherwise he is a smart ass for avoiding best treats
and still convince people he is the best

[Enigma1]

If you go back to the golden era of boxing during the 80's/early 90's, how do you think Floyd would have coped compared to now?

What do you guys think? Your opinions matter??

[Thom]

Nice to see an original thread on the forum for a change.

[rayrobinson]

We live in a media age where if you win you are the greatest if you lose then you are washed up.

Just this week possibly the best football team I have ever seen 'Barcelona' were knocked out of the European cup and now everybody says they are overated.

Floyd isnt overated - he is the best of his generation.

Is he overhyped - yes a little , but that is the world we now live in.

[avenel]

hes not overrated but overhyped and i would put a fee giys to beat him from back then...sweet pea leonard hagler hearns duran tito a prime dlh a prime macho camacho the likes of benitez i see all of them beating mayweather at welterweight just my opinion of which we will never know

[avenel]

few guys*

[Gander Tasco]

he gets overrated by his fans. and people in general think he's better then he really is. But to answer the question, he would be able to compete at a high level in any era, just as Pacquiao would.

[Enigma1]

Originally Posted by rayrobinson

We live in a media age where if you win you are the greatest if you lose then you are washed up.

Just this week possibly the best football team I have ever seen 'Barcelona' were knocked out of the European cup and now everybody says they are overated.

Floyd isnt overated - he is the best of his generation.

Is he overhyped - yes a little , but that is the world we now live in.

See, they say he's the best of his generation BUT who did he really ever fight who was in their prime? In my opinion Corrales was the most notable name he defeated.

Just a few names to throw at ya.

Hatton - Fought at 147, not Hatton's natural weight class

ODLH - in my opinion, well past his prime and still managed to give Floyd a tough fight

Arturo Gatti - Past his prime, but In my opinion was never a great fighter. Only known for his "brawls" with Micky Ward.

Zab Judah - Mayweather beat him, but Zab gave Floyd another tough fight.

Castillo - Got beat in Rematch, but 1st fight was extremely close.

Ortiz - Got sucker punched by Floyd, but Ortiz deserved it (in a way).

Mosley - a 38/39 year old who nearly put Floyd on his a**

I am not a hater, but I dislike when Floyd says "I am the best ever" and starts comparing himself to Ali.

[Enigma1]

Just to add, I think Pacquiao's resume is a little stronger than Floyd's, but no doubt he's overrated too. But I respect Pacquiao because he doesn't come out saying he's the best and comparing himself to Ali.

[GOW7]

Not as hyped as the jeremy lin of boxing himself... Manny Poochia.

[Caelum]

Originally Posted by Enigma1

See, they say he's the best of his generation BUT who did he really ever fight who was in their prime? In my opinion Corrales was the most notable name he defeated.

Just a few names to throw at ya.

Hatton - Fought at 147, not Hatton's natural weight class

ODLH - in my opinion, well past his prime and still managed to give Floyd a tough fight

Arturo Gatti - Past his prime, but In my opinion was never a great fighter. Only known for his "brawls" with Micky Ward.

Zab Judah - Mayweather beat him, but Zab gave Floyd another tough fight.

Castillo - Got beat in Rematch, but 1st fight was extremely close.

Ortiz - Got sucker punched by Floyd, but Ortiz deserved it (in a way).

Mosley - a 38/39 year old who nearly put Floyd on his a**

I am not a hater, but I dislike when Floyd says "I am the best ever" and starts comparing himself to Ali.

I never understood this crap and the illusion of weight with Hatton and Floyd. If a man fights in a division that is 140 but shows up to fights at 149, what is his "best weight"?

Tell Hatton to show up at 140 on Fight-Night and then we'll talk. But when he shows up to a fight at 149+ like most of the rest of the JrWW/140 pound fighters... and his opponent, Floyd, tends to show up at 149 for his fights (in the WW division), how is that an advantage when they are around the same weight if not the same weight?


The only thing they did was get rid of the circus that is the "making weight" before you rehydrate.

So in reality, it was "safer" and "Better" for both of them to not have to drain down to a weight they wouldn't be fighting at by fight-time.

other than that...he does overrate himself.


Overall, I think he was an exceptional LW. Could have stood his ground with the best. But other divisions, specificlly 147+...not so much.

[NeckBreaknAiken]

Originally Posted by Enigma1

Just to add, I think Pacquiao's resume is a little stronger than Floyd's, but no doubt he's overrated too. But I respect Pacquiao because he doesn't come out saying he's the best and comparing himself to Ali.

Floyd is a shit-talker. Get the sand out yer vaginer!


Floyd is overated by his fans, but underrated by his hater. All in all, he is pretty fairly judged. And I don'r think a lot of people beat him.


Hearns, Leonard, possibly P, and possibly Duran. Tito is overrated.

[lepinthehood]

Originally Posted by avenel

hes not overrated but overhyped and i would put a fee giys to beat him from back then...sweet pea leonard hagler hearns duran tito a prime dlh a prime macho camacho the likes of benitez i see all of them beating mayweather at welterweight just my opinion of which we will never know

why hagler? hes a fucking middleweight. theres alot of middleweights who would destroy floyd but its not exactly fair. theres alot of welterweights that would beat him but he'd being moving up to there weight.