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Old 10-26-2011, 09:53 PM   #1351
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154 and 130. At 130 he beat the number 1 guy in the division twice. Chico and Hernandez. He was 26-0 at the weight if im not mistaken. He also fought some other good opposition. 26-0 vs 7-1. Also at 154 he fought the number 3 ranked fighter in Oscar. Marg wasn't even ranked in the division. So that would be 130, 135, and 154.
At 154 they each had only one fight, though Pac weighed-in 10lbs under the limit. You had Margarito coming off a loss and a years suspension, and a 34 year old Oscar who had only one fight in almost 3 few years prior. Oscar wins that by default, as he was atleast a champ, even though the belt he had was a worthless title handed to Mayorga after his loss to Tito. It was hardly a great victory and performance from Floyd.

135 and 154 then, the divisions Pacquiao used as stopovers for only one fight.

Pac's resume at 130 beats Mayweather's. Morales, Marquez and Barrera only had losses to each other and Pacquiao at the weight, and had each been champion there and considered the best guys there at the time. Hernandez and Corrales were undefeated but were not of the calibre of those fighters, even slightly past prime versions.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:54 PM   #1352
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Floyd fights champions and fighters coming off wins! Manny fights leftovers and has-beens!
Like zab judah who got spanked by baldomir? Or victor ortiz leftover of maidana.. And marquez coming off two brutal wars againts pac
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:55 PM   #1353
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Is this even a serious debate? Manny by a mile.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:56 PM   #1354
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Manny fought Morales coming off a mismatch loss to zahir rahim, and he ducked Zahir, Humberto Soto, Tim Austyn, Mark Johnson...He intentionally dodged them cuz he couldnt beat them....He fought Margarito washed up, clottey coming off a loss to cotto and he ducked shane when he beat the crap out of Margarito...Floyd didnt fight Marg and Cotto but he didnt INTENTIONALLY duck them cuz they could beat him...they had no chance of beating him, Bob Arum just didnt LET him fight them so its different from Pacman BLATANTLY ducking guys cuz he's scared to lose...and EVERYONE Mayweather fought was formidable...his whole career was champions...he had a few bums in their, but he was so good, he didnt need bums...he fought tough guys and made them seem like trash..Ortiz, Mosley(coming off the margarito win), Undefeated Hatton,, Baldomir coming off a GREAT streak, Gotti was washed up, Zab coming off a loss, Genero..I mean I can go on for days...Manny is a hypejob in my opinion but thats a whole nother topic..and Manny DUCKED Marques for the 3rd fight cuz Marques was a counterpuncher(according to Pac's adviser)..Overall I think Pac's toughest foes were out of their prime at the time he fought them and all washed up coming off losses BUT...Pac's atg status comes from him climbing weight classes, NOT necessarily from fighting the best at their best!
Manny lost to EM and had a scheduled rematch with EM before the fight with Raheem was made. Losing to Raheem was more of a bad choice of opponents due to style, coupled with lack of motivation for a fight was was suppose to be a nice tune up for the big rematch with PAC. Of course those who want to discredit PAC said EM was washed up....yet in 2011 he's at the top of the Jr WW division challenging the top fighters in compeitive scraps.

Humberto Soto, Tim Austyn, Mark Johnson... They were never on the radar b/c they were never a real name or threat to PAC...Raheem's only real win was over EM who clearly overlooked him as a viable threat.

Josh was coming off a loss that many felt he won...PAC of course dominated Josh like no one else had...which is common for PAC... DLH never lost like he did to PAC...neither did Ricky, Cotto or Shane.....Even at the lower weight classes when he destroyed EM and MAB...no one had ever put in work like that on those boxers...ever! Expect for Manny. To say everyone of PAC's opponents were shot, old, weight drained or "threw" the fight is just a common defense mechanism from detractors who can't seem to find anything to give Manny credit for.

Ortiz was moving up in weight and off a loss to Marcos. Mosley was coming off a big win against Marg but was thought to be shot after struggling with Mayorga where he pull out a 12 round KO in a fight he would have lost on the cards.

PAC's status comes from what he's done in the sport...against fighters who were proven and legit ELITE level fighters...not just b/c he's made history in moving up in weight and grabbing titles all along the way....that was just one of the many reasons for PAC's historical career.

Floyd's got a good legacy too...one that he should be proud of... but it's not even close to PAC's legacy.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:56 PM   #1355
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If we're talking about resume, Floyd is nothing but a mere speck of dust underneath Pac's toenail.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:57 PM   #1356
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Regardless of who fought who etc etc why does nobody mention that pac has fought a lot more fights, kinda makes the question a bit slanted in mannys favour before it has even been discussed. If Floyd stayed active his resume would be epic lol
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Like zab judah who got spanked by baldomir? Or victor ortiz leftover of maidana.. And marquez coming off two brutal wars againts pac
Victor Ortiz got spanked by who?..When was that?..Oh A million yrs ago when He was a jr ww...he naturally weighs 170+lbs fighting at 40..LOL...Ltes see who whoops em at 47 when he comes in the ring at 164lbs..LMAO...Get over it pacturd...Pac is a hypejob
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:01 PM   #1358
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Manny lost to EM and had a scheduled rematch with EM before the fight with Raheem was made. Losing to Raheem was more of a bad choice of opponents due to style, coupled with lack of motivation for a fight was was suppose to be a nice tune up for the big rematch with PAC. Of course those who want to discredit PAC said EM was washed up....yet in 2011 he's at the top of the Jr WW division challenging the top fighters in compeitive scraps.

Humberto Soto, Tim Austyn, Mark Johnson... They were never on the radar b/c they were never a real name or threat to PAC...Raheem's only real win was over EM who clearly overlooked him as a viable threat.

Josh was coming off a loss that many felt he won...PAC of course dominated Josh like no one else had...which is common for PAC... DLH never lost like he did to PAC...neither did Ricky, Cotto or Shane.....Even at the lower weight classes when he destroyed EM and MAB...no one had ever put in work like that on those boxers...ever! Expect for Manny. To say everyone of PAC's opponents were shot, old, weight drained or "threw" the fight is just a common defense mechanism from detractors who can't seem to find anything to give Manny credit for.

Ortiz was moving up in weight and off a loss to Marcos. Mosley was coming off a big win against Marg but was thought to be shot after struggling with Mayorga where he pull out a 12 round KO in a fight he would have lost on the cards.

PAC's status comes from what he's done in the sport...against fighters who were proven and legit ELITE level fighters...not just b/c he's made history in moving up in weight and grabbing titles all along the way....that was just one of the many reasons for PAC's historical career.

Floyd's got a good legacy too...one that he should be proud of... but it's not even close to PAC's legacy.
They were never a THREAT to pacman??..NICKAHHH BANN YASELF FOOL...U KNOW NUTHING ABOUT THE GAME OF BOXING!!!!..LOL
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:02 PM   #1359
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Pacquiao has the better resume, most would agree with that.
Nope...Only U think that alongside a few Moronic biased people who either HATE Floyd or LOVE Pac..LOL...Learn about the game of boxing!
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:05 PM   #1360
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At 154 they each had only one fight, though Pac weighed-in 10lbs under the limit. You had Margarito coming off a loss and a years suspension, and a 34 year old Oscar who had only one fight in almost 3 few years prior. Oscar wins that by default, as he was atleast a champ, even though the belt he had was a worthless title handed to Mayorga after his loss to Tito. It was hardly a great victory and performance from Floyd.

135 and 154 then, the divisions Pacquiao used as stopovers for only one fight.

Pac's resume at 130 beats Mayweather's. Morales, Marquez and Barrera only had losses to each other and Pacquiao at the weight, and had each been champion there and considered the best guys there at the time. Hernandez and Corrales were undefeated but were not of the calibre of those fighters, even slightly past prime versions.
I'll give you Marquez MAYBE even Morales but Barrera? No just no. Morales was weight drained and Marquez wasn't exactly prime either. Yea I know you mentioned that. There is no way I would give 130 to Manny. Floyd fought the best and did it longer than Manny. I would give it to Manny if he cleaned out the division but he didn't. Both fought the best but one fought 18 more times at the weight. If they both fought 8 times then I would give it to Manny. Hell I would pick Manny if Morales, Marquez, and Barrera were in their prime. I pick Floyd based on fighting at the weight longer.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:06 PM   #1361
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Like zab judah who got spanked by baldomir? Or victor ortiz leftover of maidana.. And marquez coming off two brutal wars againts pac
... like De La Hoya, after he lost to Mayweather/got beat up by Steve Forbes. Like Hatton, after he got KO'd my Mayweather. Like Mosley, after he got schooled by Mayweather/drew with sorry-ass Mora. I can mention a few more. Oh, now he wants Marquez, now that he's 40 and obviously declining?! Why not 3 years ago?


Baldomir was the undisputed champ. Ortiz was the WBC champ. Marquez was the #3 best, P4P.

Your arguments suck, too, homie!
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Wrong...Pac ducked the MOST at the lower divisions
He could have fought Guzman or Valero, he fought greater and more proven fighters instead. Those guys went on to do nothing. Raheem is also a nothing name. He got lucky on one night, like Vince Phillips, Buster Douglas. Forget about that guy, Pac would've obliterated him and he'd be accused of ducking a Morales rematch, which would be worse. 135 is the only division Pac didn't fight the best, because he moved up two divisions immediately after the Diaz fight to take on challenges seen as significantly tougher (which most saw an unwinnable at the time). He gets a pass especially as the guys like I mentioned didn't go on to prove they were anything special.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:12 PM   #1363
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They were never a THREAT to pacman??..NICKAHHH BANN YASELF FOOL...U KNOW NUTHING ABOUT THE GAME OF BOXING!!!!..LOL
Lol... Don't come at me with that weak sauce kid... I forgot more about the sweet science than you'd ever learn in 2 lifetimes.

And I'm not even sure where you were going with the whole "they were never a threat to Pac" comment.
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Regardless of who fought who etc etc why does nobody mention that pac has fought a lot more fights, kinda makes the question a bit slanted in mannys favour before it has even been discussed. If Floyd stayed active his resume would be epic lol
When talking about Floyd's resume, the words if, should've, would've and could've eventually comes up.

...but I agree, if he stayed active and fought the one's he was accused of ducking, his career/resume would be beyond reproach.
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Pacquiao > Mayweather
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