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Old 09-27-2013, 07:36 PM   #1
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Default more skilled whitker or floyd??

Tough one but i just watch pea highlights for the firstvtime in a while and that boy was pure genius. His defence is just as good as floyds or better. He was great to watch too . I stll have him 11 in my p4p list all time. Floyd is at 16 for now.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:37 PM   #2
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Floyd aint in my top 30 fav fighters tho hes boring but skill wise hes 16
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:57 PM   #3
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Floyd all day long.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:02 AM   #4
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Whitaker. Pea had more deft moves and subtlety whereas floyd
is too jumpy. Pernell also has the better resume
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:24 AM   #5
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Whitaker. Pea had more deft moves and subtlety whereas floyd
is too jumpy. Pernell also has the better resume
Better resume?

When people start to give credit to floyd HOF fighters :hernandez,corrales,castillo,gatti,de la hoya,hatton,marquez,mosley,cotto,alvarez is certainly future HOF.

Floyd haters keep hating floyd so much that they forget,floyd resume is full of big names.

And godsakes stop saying the same shit,floyd was too big or opponent was past his prime etc..

I think we can never give credit for SRL resume also,if think like floyd haters.

Duran was bloated LW and past his prime.SRL was lucky against hearns that fight was 15rounds instead 12.and hearns stamina is shot to shit.then he went after way past his prime hagler.other than that SRL ducked them all pryor etc..

Duran gets no credit for his win of SRL.SRL was too green and little bit weightdrained,then duran finally step up and got exposed badly against all.prime SRL,hearns and hagler.Duran was hiding all the time at LW.

Hearns is total joke lost to hagler,SRL and only win against midget duran who was also past his prime.

Biggest joke of them all was hagler.stayd whole career at MW.bullied smaller opponents,and finally got exposed against past his prime SRL.

So there you go.using floyd haters logic,nobody got impressive resume.

All i can ask now why floyd don't credit for hatton,marquez,but fab4 was full of that kind of missmatches also.they still get full credit for those wins.
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:56 AM   #6
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Better resume?

When people start to give credit to floyd HOF fighters :hernandez,corrales,castillo,gatti,de la hoya,hatton,marquez,mosley,cotto,alvarez is certainly future HOF.

Floyd haters keep hating floyd so much that they forget,floyd resume is full of big names.

And godsakes stop saying the same shit,floyd was too big or opponent was past his prime etc..

I think we can never give credit for SRL resume also,if think like floyd haters.

Duran was bloated LW and past his prime.SRL was lucky against hearns that fight was 15rounds instead 12.and hearns stamina is shot to shit.then he went after way past his prime hagler.other than that SRL ducked them all pryor etc..

Duran gets no credit for his win of SRL.SRL was too green and little bit weightdrained,then duran finally step up and got exposed badly against all.prime SRL,hearns and hagler.Duran was hiding all the time at LW.

Hearns is total joke lost to hagler,SRL and only win against midget duran who was also past his prime.

Biggest joke of them all was hagler.stayd whole career at MW.bullied smaller opponents,and finally got exposed against past his prime SRL.

So there you go.using floyd haters logic,nobody got impressive resume.

All i can ask now why floyd don't credit for hatton,marquez,but fab4 was full of that kind of missmatches also.they still get full credit for those wins.


Wait for it ..
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:01 AM   #7
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Better resume?

When people start to give credit to floyd HOF fighters :hernandez,corrales,castillo,gatti,de la hoya,hatton,marquez,mosley,cotto,alvarez is certainly future HOF.

Floyd haters keep hating floyd so much that they forget,floyd resume is full of big names.

And godsakes stop saying the same shit,floyd was too big or opponent was past his prime etc..

I think we can never give credit for SRL resume also,if think like floyd haters.

Duran was bloated LW and past his prime.SRL was lucky against hearns that fight was 15rounds instead 12.and hearns stamina is shot to shit.then he went after way past his prime hagler.other than that SRL ducked them all pryor etc..

Duran gets no credit for his win of SRL.SRL was too green and little bit weightdrained,then duran finally step up and got exposed badly against all.prime SRL,hearns and hagler.Duran was hiding all the time at LW.

Hearns is total joke lost to hagler,SRL and only win against midget duran who was also past his prime.

Biggest joke of them all was hagler.stayd whole career at MW.bullied smaller opponents,and finally got exposed against past his prime SRL.

So there you go.using floyd haters logic,nobody got impressive resume.

All i can ask now why floyd don't credit for hatton,marquez,but fab4 was full of that kind of missmatches also.they still get full credit for those wins.
Because none of those guys are near the level of any of the Fab 4, bottom line. Floyd has not a single fighter on his resume even close to that level in terms of in-ring condition. That is obvious by both the eye test and the resumes. Floyd is still an ATG fighter himself. He's just more like a top 35 ATG versus guys like Ali, SRL, Duran, etc, that are true contenders for GOAT status.

Whitaker is more skilled. From a technical standpoint, it's very close, but Sweet Pea proved his skills against higher level competition, which gives him the edge.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:05 AM   #8
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Floyds more skilled with relations to ring iq and a more complete fighter


Pea is way more gifted with relations to natural athleticism (mainly his god like defensive movement speed and reflexes)
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:03 AM   #9
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Because none of those guys are near the level of any of the Fab 4, bottom line. Floyd has not a single fighter on his resume even close to that level in terms of in-ring condition. That is obvious by both the eye test and the resumes. Floyd is still an ATG fighter himself. He's just more like a top 35 ATG versus guys like Ali, SRL, Duran, etc, that are true contenders for GOAT status.

Whitaker is more skilled. From a technical standpoint, it's very close, but Sweet Pea proved his skills against higher level competition, which gives him the edge.
fab4 got shitty resumes as i explained with floyd haters logic.you really give SRL props for beating LW duran?or poor conditioned hearns,srl was schooled in that fight.and lastly an ancient past his prime hagler.they all are overrated bums.duran was only good at lw.hearns was a light heavy fighting in WW.hagler hides all career at MW.

theyr resumes is shit.duran reigned onlt at LW when it was weak,when he moved up to his natural weight he got exposed as a fraud.

SRL only got 4great wins,other than that his resume is shit.and already explained why SRL shouldn't get full credit for those wins.and benitez was already a shot to shit way past his prime.

Hearns was a total joke,bullying smaller mens and got badly exposed many times when he stepped up.win against duran who was a LW.patherit cherrypicking.

haglee was hiding at MW all his career beating bums,then dragged LW duran to fight him and also WW hearns.no credit for hagler.and finally exposed againat SRL who was grandpa at that age.

why we didn't get duran vs SRL fight at their primes.duran prime was 70's and at LW.

SRL dragged poor duran up to WW and still lose first time,second time onlt because duran was not in good condition.same as winning against hearns.hearns was sick and got problems making the weight,SRL again all the advantages!benitez was clearly past his prime,also got problems for making weight.SRL was in prime.again alla advantages SRL

i'm only trying to say it's truly retard when haters try to diss floyd record.by their logic fab4 was never any good.because everytime there is excuse one way or other!


and for the record fab4 were all great fighters and my favorites!only pissed that hearns get credit for win against duran,floyd gets hate for JMM fight.and funny thing is also that JMM and floyd were much more closer at size than duran and hearns.

there are many more examples like this

oldtimers get too much praise for their win's and floyd gets too much critics.
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:33 AM   #10
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Better resume?

When people start to give credit to floyd HOF fighters :hernandez,corrales,castillo,gatti,de la hoya,hatton,marquez,mosley,cotto,alvarez is certainly future HOF.

Floyd haters keep hating floyd so much that they forget,floyd resume is full of big names.

And godsakes stop saying the same shit,floyd was too big or opponent was past his prime etc..

I think we can never give credit for SRL resume also,if think like floyd haters.

Duran was bloated LW and past his prime.SRL was lucky against hearns that fight was 15rounds instead 12.and hearns stamina is shot to shit.then he went after way past his prime hagler.other than that SRL ducked them all pryor etc..

Duran gets no credit for his win of SRL.SRL was too green and little bit weightdrained,then duran finally step up and got exposed badly against all.prime SRL,hearns and hagler.Duran was hiding all the time at LW.

Hearns is total joke lost to hagler,SRL and only win against midget duran who was also past his prime.

Biggest joke of them all was hagler.stayd whole career at MW.bullied smaller opponents,and finally got exposed against past his prime SRL.

So there you go.using floyd haters logic,nobody got impressive resume.

All i can ask now why floyd don't credit for hatton,marquez,but fab4 was full of that kind of missmatches also.they still get full credit for those wins.
So, SRL went against Hagler and only fought him when he was shot to shit, but Hagler was the biggest joke of them all, who got exposed to SRL?

How does a shot fighter get exposed?



Welcome to ESB, where fans don't watch fighters.. they just read about them on Wikipedia and try to come across as knowledgable.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:04 AM   #11
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Whitaker did what he did alot of the time with a reach disadvantage. It is much easier to hit and not get hit if your arms are longer (sometimes much longer) than your opponent like Floyds have been against pretty much everyone he has faced.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:59 AM   #12
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So, SRL went against Hagler and only fought him when he was shot to shit, but Hagler was the biggest joke of them all, who got exposed to SRL?

How does a shot fighter get exposed?



Welcome to ESB, where fans don't watch fighters.. they just read about them on Wikipedia and try to come across as knowledgable.
yes i know it's imbossible.that's called floyd haters logic in ESB forum.

and to be clear i respect the hell out of hagler etc.. only say that is easy to twist and turn everybody's record.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:11 AM   #13
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Whitaker did what he did alot of the time with a reach disadvantage. It is much easier to hit and not get hit if your arms are longer (sometimes much longer) than your opponent like Floyds have been against pretty much everyone he has faced.
yes everything is easy for floyd.he is always the bigger,always in his prime and got stylistic advantage.floyd is also a ducker,fights opponent who are weight drained or bloated.floyd also fights everytime against too green or past prime opponents.

garcia is too green and too small.
khan is too green and too small,also was never any good.
alexander is already exposed and maybe past his prime.
martinez is shot to shit and is coming from a injury.
GGG is unproven and too green,also he could have problems making the weight.
ward is coming from a long layoff,and should fight light heavy.also i think he is little bit past his prime.
klitchko is way past his prime and floyd got unfair speed advantage,and also klitchko coulf have health problems.

luckily floyd is always healthy and 100%.also luckily he is always in his prime,and it should be never any problem for floyd to compete at any weightclass.he is always peak condition no matter what weight.
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