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View Poll Results: A prime Duke vs. a post-Manila Ali
Morrison by KO/TKO 18 14.17%
Morrison by decision 1 0.79%
Draw 1 0.79%
Ali by KO/TKO 87 68.50%
Ali by decision 20 15.75%
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:40 AM   #106
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Anyone that thinks that Tommy Morrison would beat the 60's version of Ali. Or any version before the Spinks fight, needs to go back to posting on Stormfront.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:42 PM   #107
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Frazier was not a shot fighter when he fought Ali in 75. A shot fighter does not fight the way he fought in that fight....coming very close to rewining the championship in a give and take fight over the first 12 rounds. For both fighters it was their last great fight....perhaps Alis greatest. It was this fight that definitively showed boxing historians that Ali was as tough as any past all time great hwt champion.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:48 PM   #108
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:48 PM   #109
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There are 15 who voted for Morrison, LOL!
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:09 PM   #110
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Frazier was greatly diminished by the time he fought Terry Daniels (recently read an article in an old magazine by Jose Torres advising Frazier to retire because he had been stunned by a Daniels punch) and Ron Stander. Frazier didn't look impressive in either fight. That Ali struggled with Frazier in the second and third fights might be telling about Ali and the competition at that time.
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Was just about to recount this anecdote.
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:11 PM   #111
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15 losers
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:16 PM   #112
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Frazier was stunned often early in fights even before he fought Ali and Foreman. He was an exceedingly slow starter.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:51 PM   #113
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You make an interesting point here.

185 lb Henry Cooper was able to drop and hurt Ali, while Foreman wasn’t.

The same Foreman was able to carry his power up against the heavyweights of the 90s when he was pushing 50.

Ali was able to stop Foreman and Jimmy Young was able to drop him, while the giants of the 90s couldn’t even hurt him when he was practically of pension age.

What does all this point to?
  • Technique and delivery are far more important than size and physical strength in terms of knocking an opponent out.
  • The big heavyweights of the 90s are simply not the destroyers that you assume them to be.
Game, set and match
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:59 PM   #114
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The Frazier who fought Ali in 1971 was a machine. You cannot compare a nothing like Morrison to that Frazier. That Frazier would utterly destroy Morrison...man against a boy, borderline all time great vs a challenger who will be forgotten in time. You have a highly distorted view of what boxing is all about...very distorted view of what attributes make a fighter a great fighter. Morrison was in no way a great fighter...Frazier was.
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Lol!!!!!!
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What high school did you just drop out of?
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You really are lost. You need to understand what being a great fighter is all about. You cannot compare in any way Ali and Morrison. Ali wins easily. Just in no way comparable. Morrison has no chance whosoever. Id like to know how old you are?
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:19 PM   #118
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Again, the question you Classicists refuse to answer, I will repeat again.

Where are the elite power punching 185 pound heavyweights today?

Point me to one.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:34 PM   #120
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Prime Ali would obviously beat Tommy, but how would the post-Manila version do against The Duke?
Ali easily. I wish all polls were this easy to answer.
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