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View Poll Results: A prime Duke vs. a post-Manila Ali
Morrison by KO/TKO 18 14.17%
Morrison by decision 1 0.79%
Draw 1 0.79%
Ali by KO/TKO 87 68.50%
Ali by decision 20 15.75%
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:06 AM   #121
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A motivated, in-shape Ali beats morrison pretty rasily. Tommy had nothing that ali hasn't seen before so stylistically he wouldn't pose much of a problem. He was also too wide open and ali takes advantage of this a steady tattoo of 1-2's.

After spinks 2 , however, it would be a tougher match because ali had sharply declined in his abilittes.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:29 AM   #122
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85%. Enough said.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:40 AM   #123
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Houdini says Frazier was stunned often in fights and was a slow starter...if he was stunned by 195 pound Terry Daniels (35-30-1), who knows what Morrison would do to him? Ali, Frazier, the rest of the 70s crew, never faced a 225 pound, fast, hard puncher. Morrison would be something they'd never seen and there wouldn't be any sparring partners available similar to him.

Anyone who thinks Morrison wouldn't be a threat to any of the 70s heavyweights is refusing to look at the video evidence and is just believing the story tellers.
Cooney who had zero muscle on his frame could have beaten Foreman. His left hook almost dropped him and he was ripe for the killing. Morrison, the fast hard puncher couldn't do any of that.

He gets beaten in the 70s,no threat.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:07 AM   #124
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Anyone who thinks Morrison wouldn't be a threat to any of the 70s heavyweights is refusing to look at the video evidence and is just believing the story tellers.
Anybody who thinks that all Morison needs to be great is a different era, is living in a fantasy world.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:13 AM   #125
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Houdini says Frazier was stunned often in fights and was a slow starter...if he was stunned by 195 pound Terry Daniels (35-30-1), who knows what Morrison would do to him? Ali, Frazier, the rest of the 70s crew, never faced a 225 pound, fast, hard puncher. Morrison would be something they'd never seen and there wouldn't be any sparring partners available similar to him.

Anyone who thinks Morrison wouldn't be a threat to any of the 70s heavyweights is refusing to look at the video evidence and is just believing the story tellers.
If Morrison was this so called monster your trying to make him out to be, what happened against Bennt?

You can stop comparing the guy to greats from other eras when he didnt do diddly squat in his own era.

Lennox took Morrison to school, yet hes always spoken about Ali as being the GOAT.

Surely if Morrison was as great as your trying to make him out to be, Lennox would have mentioned something along the lines of.....Tommy Morrison is one of the ATGS?

When Vitali returned, against Peters, why did Vitali have Frazier on his entrance video and not Tommy Morrison??

Why did Wlad make that entrance with Ali and not Tommy Morrison?

After the Chisora fight, Vitali challenged Haye and asked him if he wanted the same WBC belt held by other greats such as Ali, Lewis and Tyson, why didnt he mention Tommy Morrison? oh wait, Morrison never actually won anything in his own era.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:18 AM   #126
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Rubbish;

Ali never ONCE faced anything remotely like Morrison.

He never faced anybody as hard punching as Morrison except arguably Foreman who has no skill or speed.

He never faced a real HW as fast as Morrison.

He never faced a real HW as skilled as Morrison.

I clearly favour Tommy over all versions. And as Galt said, the proof is in the video evidence.

Ali does not LOOK like anything special.

Morrison looked spectacular!

Morrison fought the better opponents over whole career! Purely because they were HEAVYWEIGHT opponents.

Morrison fought 50 odd HW fights and lost 3. Ali only fought 32 and lost 4!

Not counted, but Ali WAS a HW and LOST to a sub 200 CW, 7 fight green career bum who Tommy would have knocked out so fast the crowd would be crying out for a refund!
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:56 AM   #127
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:59 AM   #128
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:40 AM   #129
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Ali lost to Spinks at a time where he physically should not have been in the ring with anyone. We are talking prime Ali. Morisson did not have the heart or durability to do anything with Ali in his prime.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:42 AM   #130
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We are talking prime Foreman not the bloated way past peak fighter who came back after 10 years retirement.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:12 AM   #131
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:32 AM   #132
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John....you just don't know anything about that time. Not your fault but over time you will learn. To me the 70s was not "old time". It's the era I grew up and was watching Foreman who by the way was my fav fighter at that point in time. Old time to me were the eras prior to Ali.

Foreman was no great boxer. He was a human force of nature. Immensely strong with destructive power in each fist. Great power jab and he could pick off punches with his gloves nicely and he cut the ring off like no other. Great chin, determined, no dog in George and he had strong killer instinct. George fought at such a high pitch pace trying to ko opponents with every blow that he lost some effectiveness after 5 rounds. Getting past those first 5 rounds would be tough for most any hwt. If Ali would have continued to fight Foreman as he did in round one he may not have lasted 5 rounds with Foreman. I watched George in person slam a 300 pound heavy bag at the Great Gorge resort in north NJ back in 1974. I've seen many hwts hit normal heavy bags in person...Ali, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Shavers. NEVER have I seen or heard such power. The guy could literally hit like a hammer. It was frightening. Trust me no one could hit like Prime Foreman.

Again you just don't know but Ali was already suffering from Parkinson syndrome when he fought Spinks. Plus he was out of shape at the very end of his career. Against a Real heavy puncher Ali would have been seriously injured. Always when mythical match ups are discussed it's fighters at there best not fighters at their worst, way past prime or terminally ill. Your forgiven as you honestly need to know more about what your talking about. It's tough to fully understand unless you have lived through the times.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:13 PM   #133
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #134
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Again you show your immense ignorance. All the bouts you mention were against past prime Ali. Guess what? Ali was the only fighter ever to KO, for a 10 count no less, George Foreman and he was way in the lead when the ko came. He never had trouble with Bugner. Holmes Ali was way past his prime and I hope you would know this...he was having severe symptoms with Parkinson prior to this bout. SIZE had nothing to do with having trouble to Norton or Lyle. Study up my friend and perhaps in 30 years you will know better.
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