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Old 10-31-2007, 07:37 PM   #16
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Default Re: Hopes of Ibragimov Klitschko unification fight starting to slip

I bet that Ibragimov will refuse to accept the fight if offered in March due to having Thompson as a mandatory which is due in June.

If this current window of opportunity for unifying two titles is refused by Ibragimov cause he don't want to lose to Wladimir, all hope for unification will be down the toilet, again. They'll both have mandatories to deal with, and this ship will have sailed.........

Its hard to have any admiration for Ibragimov, after this. REAL hard.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:16 PM   #17
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Default Re: Hopes of Ibragimov Klitschko unification fight starting to slip

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Exactly...

It's not that Wlad won't fight any of these guys, it's that they won't fight him. FOUR ****ING MONTHS is MORE than enough time to get ready for that fight - in fact the average camp is 10-12 weeks. It's not like Ibragimov had a tough fight against Holyfield, that was target practice/sparring. If anything, he has more momentum and should be in great shape - he could simply chill for a month than go into training camp and be MORE THAN READY for this fight...

The RING just needs to go ahead and honor Wlad with the belt because it's OBVIOUS he's light years above the rest and he's the only one that REALLY wants to unify.
I've been saying this for the longest time! Where's Suge White when shit like this happens & he claims it's all Klitschko's fault?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:19 PM   #18
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Man I could only imagine if I had 4 months to train for a particular fighter without having to run my business.


Four months not enough time.........you gotta be shittin me.




Must be mind games or something, I hope.
Maybe mind games or holding out for a better cash offer...............
we can only hope.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:21 PM   #19
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How is 4 months not enough time....

does he need more time to celebrate the Holyfield win?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:24 PM   #20
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I think Waldo proved he doesn't duck competiton by stepping in the ring with Sam just to get at Byrd.

The other ones however, Maskaev, Ibragimov, and Chagaev all worry me and look very much like title snatchers who will hold them hostage for as long as possible.

They really need to go back to having champions ranked by other organizations.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:40 PM   #21
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who knows whats going on. It's all posturing at this point anyway.

Bullshit moves to try and get the upper hand in negotations.

IF Iggy and his team want unification, then it will be a ploy to either get

a) a venue more to their liking
b) more money
c) all of the above.


Don't forget, Waldo has had his share of lame defences, and raked in the cash.

Iggy and his team are only just starting on the gravy train. If they're going to risk it all in a unification fight, then I'm sure they want to have enough in the bank to call it a career.

Waldo has a much better rep to fall back on if he lost this fight. His career wouldn't be over, it would just be another hiccup (altho of course his legacy would be hurt).

It's fair to say Iggys career would pretty much be over if he lost. So of course, he either wants enough money from easy defences beforehand, or a huge purse for risking it with Wlad.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:41 PM   #22
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I think Waldo proved he doesn't duck competiton by stepping in the ring with Sam just to get at Byrd.

The other ones however, Maskaev, Ibragimov, and Chagaev all worry me and look very much like title snatchers who will hold them hostage for as long as possible.

They really need to go back to having champions ranked by other organizations.
I agree 1000% and that's not a typo!

We as fans need to boycott these supposed "title fights" against hasbeens like Holyfield, McCall, Moorer, Rahman, Tua, etc. and wannabes like Austin, etc. who magically get elevated to #1 contender status for merely beating tomato cans for a shot at the titles.

This is bullshit! Unify or be stripped of your EARNING POWER by the fans who won't buy these phoney "title matches" anymore.

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:45 PM   #23
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who knows whats going on. It's all posturing at this point anyway.

Bullshit moves to try and get the upper hand in negotations.

IF Iggy and his team want unification, then it will be a ploy to either get

a) a venue more to their liking
b) more money
c) all of the above.


Don't forget, Waldo has had his share of lame defences, and raked in the cash.

Iggy and his team are only just starting on the gravy train. If they're going to risk it all in a unification fight, then I'm sure they want to have enough in the bank to call it a career.

Waldo has a much better rep to fall back on if he lost this fight. His career wouldn't be over, it would just be another hiccup (altho of course his legacy would be hurt).

It's fair to say Iggys career would pretty much be over if he lost. So of course, he either wants enough money from easy defences beforehand, or a huge purse for risking it with Wlad.
You're a liar & you can kiss my ass!

Wladimir's only questionable defense was against his MANDATORY, Austin who was given that bogus ranking by DON KING. Pay attenion asshole.

Brock was a voluntary defense, against an undefeated fighter in his prime, and Klitschko destroyed him.

Brewster was a revenge match since no other beltholder was able to unify due to previously arranged matches as well as mandatory defenses. Klitschko destroyed him also.

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:46 PM   #24
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Apparently, Ibragimov's people don't think four months is enough time.............. I expected they'd come up with something, but I thought he'd reject the money, instead of saying four months is not enough time between fights. And you know that instead of merely suggesting that they move it up to March to give him five months, I suspect Ibragimov will refuse that, too, cause he'll say he has to be ready for Thompson, his mandatory, by June.

I think Ibragimov just don't want the fight, and I never did think he would take it. I think saying four months is not enough time for a fit 31 year old is a bit rediculous.............But, any excuse will do when you don't want to do something.

But maybe the fight will still be made. Who knows. But I am now very doubtful. Even moreso than before. Ibrag don't seem to be as serious about unification as he said he was.
THIS FIGHT WILL HAPPEN...Trust me..inside info...the fight will be signed in a couple days....Mark my words

Also..Wlad by ko in 5
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:48 PM   #25
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How is 4 months not enough time....

does he need more time to celebrate the Holyfield win?
Exactly. 4 months is long enough to arrange & prepare for any fight at any weight, unless you're a *****.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:22 PM   #26
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It's fair to say Iggys career would pretty much be over if he lost. .



I think you overstate how detrimental that the F I R S T loss on Ibragimov's career would be, in order to justify his unwillingness to fight Klitschko.

He's only 32, and is undefeated, but if he takes his first loss to whom is considered the best heavyweight currently fighting, then his career is pretty much, over.....



Talk about grasping at straws! WOW, that is rich!
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:28 PM   #27
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I don't see why Klitschko and Chagaev didn't make a fight happen for December. The champions want unification fights but seem not eager to make them happen.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:31 PM   #28
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1 simple fix.

1. Make champions rankable and able to recieve mandatory status for other titles.

This would clear up so much in boxing it's ridiculous not to consider it.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:38 PM   #29
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1 simple fix.

1. Make champions rankable and able to recieve mandatory status for other titles.

This would clear up so much in boxing it's ridiculous not to consider it.
Great idea, now just to convice the ABC's to agree to it..................don't hold your breath.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:39 PM   #30
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I don't see why Klitschko and Chagaev didn't make a fight happen for December. The champions want unification fights but seem not eager to make them happen.
Apparently HBO doesn't have enough money left for another Klitschko fight before the year's end. This is why they left a February date open.
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