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Old 10-07-2010, 03:24 PM   #61
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Hagler never lifted a weight in his life, but was built and had power.
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:02 PM   #62
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The thing is, as I've said before, most of you don't know **** all about weight training.

If you use weights properly you can only get better at your sport. You cannot get worse, and if you're doing it right you wont even get bigger.

oh and BTW Mayweather, the klitschkos, Haye, Hatton and probably also Pacquio use weights, and most other boxers do too.
So you think Mayweather hits hard? Doing weights doesn't mean you can punch harder. You must be retarded. Did Joe Louis pump weights every day? No.
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:33 PM   #63
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So you think Mayweather hits hard? Doing weights doesn't mean you can punch harder. You must be retarded. Did Joe Louis pump weights every day? No.
This thread isn't about power punching.
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:51 PM   #64
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Hagler never lifted a weight in his life, but was built and had power.
Evidence or go home.
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Old 10-07-2010, 06:47 PM   #65
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So yeah i took that as a challange and anyone who does that on a regular basis is a friggen masochist.

my arms are shaking
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:07 AM   #66
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Evidence or go home.

Try Google New Boy
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:58 AM   #67
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then post a link. I've made the more liekly statement, that he did use weights.

your statement is based on a fanboy love and general lack of common sense so prove it.
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then post a link. I've made the more liekly statement, that he did use weights.

your statement is based on a fanboy love and general lack of common sense so prove it.
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Old 10-08-2010, 11:26 AM   #69
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then post a link. I've made the more liekly statement, that he did use weights.

your statement is based on a fanboy love and general lack of common sense so prove it.
Find it yourself. Ring Magazine had an article about Marvin's training before his fight with Hearns. Start there.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:03 PM   #70
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press workouts and subsequent interviews to that effect rarely actually show what the fighter does.

example, Ali never actually shadowboxed under water.
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Old 10-09-2010, 01:54 AM   #71
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If weights are better, why is it all the major Football clubs dont use them now.

what sort of football are you talking about, if you mean soccer why would they use weights its a non contact sport.

If you mean aussie rules AFL, real football with contact and no arnour protection. Then you are wrong because EVERY football club lifts weights for strength and explosivness.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:10 AM   #72
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I think weights and body weight training are both beneficial. I think they go hand in hand together. You just need to know how to train the weights for you specific sport.

I think body weight is more for endurance then strength for example, tabata squats is a good endurance exercise. You will not reach your maximum strength only using body weight exercises. And when i talk about training weights i don't mean hundreds of bicep curls, that would be pointless. I don't even do isolated movements with weights. I would do kettle bell swings, weighted chin ups, weighted lunges with overhead press, weighted get ups, weighted push ups. Most of these movements can be done as body weight training but if you add weight you will definately become stronger and more explosive. I also like to do my weight training as a circuit.

you need to train so you have FUNCTIONAL MUSCLE, not to be a bodybuilder. Different training all together, yet they both lift weights.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:17 AM   #73
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get ross enamaits never gymless and/or infinite intensity, never gymless is for those with little or no equipment

best books i have ever read on strength and conditioning.
did ross enamaits book never gymless, improve you BADMINTON

bahahah

we only want to hear from people who actually train not from people who read books and become experts.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:22 AM   #74
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press workouts and subsequent interviews to that effect rarely actually show what the fighter does.

example, Ali never actually shadowboxed under water.
Lennox Lewis never lifted...
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:32 AM   #75
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of-course big guys like joe louis and mike tyson are going to punch hard, they are heavy weight, most heavy weights punch hard. But for a middle weight like myself, weights can definately help improve my punching power.

There comes a time when your technique is nearly perfect and more technique training isnt going to help you punch harder. This is the stage when explosive training with weights specific for punching will help you punch harder.

and its not just about punching harder, how about building full body strength so you can man handle you opponent around the ring. There i more benifits to lifting weights then just punching harder.

Like someone else said, weights will not teach you technique or skill
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