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Old 05-27-2013, 04:28 AM   #1
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Default Joe Calzaghe v Andre Ward

Who do think wins this bout at Super-Middle?
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:43 AM   #2
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Not only would Ward have won...He would win easily and already has a greater resume at the weight.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:10 AM   #3
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I would take Calzaghe in this one with reservations. No one was ever able to completely defuse his activity, speed and tenacity. At his best he understood space and angles as well as anyone. I need to see more Ward to fully claim to understand his potential. He definitely has rare skills and makes for an awkward opponent. I just don't see him matching Joe's effective output. Hopefully, his injury bug is behind him.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:27 PM   #4
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I think Calzage speed and adaptability win this one but Ward is a tough one and it would be close but I like Joes hand speed and foot speed to edge Andre tight UD
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:28 PM   #5
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It's an interesting fight, I'd go with Calzaghe tentatively. Ward is a bit more skilled but Calzaghe has the speed, workrate and stamina to pull it out the bag in a championship rounds. Ward's holding and hitting strategy wouldn't work here so well as Calzaghe is a good in fighter and Ward's stamina didn't look great to me down the stretch against Froch so I'd certainly pick Calzaghe to take over in the championship rounds.

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Not only would Ward have won...He would win easily and already has a greater resume at the weight.
I give him a shot but I'm not even sure RJJ beats Calzaghe easily at 168. As for resumes, Calzaghe has 7 SMW titlists Eubank, Mitchell, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Lacy and a better Kessler. So I'd say it's close.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:30 PM   #6
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I am thinking along the same lines as the three posts above.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:49 PM   #7
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Hopkins turned Calzaghe's hand speed into windmilling through thin air. Ward would do the same while being 10x more offensively stronger.
Ward is at a different level.
Hopkins proved Joe was never at that level.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:27 PM   #8
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Hopkins turned Calzaghe's hand speed into windmilling through thin air. Ward would do the same while being 10x more offensively stronger.
Ward is at a different level.
Hopkins proved Joe was never at that level.
Ward can't do what Hopkins does though, nowhere near as good as out footworking a southpaw
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:37 PM   #9
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I think he can do what Hopkins does and will prove it in time. You cant take anything from the fight with Froch where Ward had just one hand.
If there was stamina issues , how was he on his toes using the whole ring up untill the final dong?

You want to give me an example of when Joe proved he was a good inside fighter?
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:34 PM   #10
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Pretty evenly matched. I pick like the others have. I like the pivot jab counter and intangibles in fighting spirit that Calzaghe brings to the table at this point.
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I think he can do what Hopkins does and will prove it in time. You cant take anything from the fight with Froch where Ward had just one hand.
If there was stamina issues , how was he on his toes using the whole ring up untill the final dong?

You want to give me an example of when Joe proved he was a good inside fighter?
What Hopkins did? You mean lose to Calzaghe? Yeah, thats highly possible.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:51 PM   #12
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Comprehend English before you talk to men.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:08 PM   #13
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talking to plants though, you can do that without English
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:21 PM   #14
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Oh well, at least it isn't only my roaring success of a Kessler thread that he's tried to **** up.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:53 PM   #15
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Calzaghe through speed of jab and workrate.

Ward is absolutely an ATG though and will go down as being a top ten fighter of all time in terms of skill by the time he is done.
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