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Old 08-22-2011, 08:06 AM   #1966
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This guy would've told you just how good a fighter Ali was during that period

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Old 08-22-2011, 08:10 AM   #1967
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Red - which critic planted that idea in your head?? Try watching the fight maybe? - his flurries were absolutely scintilating - a little below par for Muhammad Ali in his prime is like way above par for most other fighters anyway There wasn't any fight in his prime (Liston I to Terrell) where he didn't look virtuoso IMO (name me another heavyweight who looked like he did in those days? I can't think of one can you?)
I watched the fight Rocky...back then when it happened..on ABC Wide World of Sports..and the southpaw Mildenberger's awkward southpaw style caused Ali to look less than virtuoustic. It's not just my opinion..it was the concensus opinion even among Ali fans..which I was. I called it as I saw it back then...hardly a virtuouso perfprmance..Karl landed more than anyone expected him to.
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:08 AM   #1968
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Awesome Burt, who would you have compared Elmer Ray to - as far as punching power goes - and maybe in terms of level of ability as a fighter generally??
Hard to say, but he was along the lines of a later day Ron Lyle,with more skils. Tough hombre. Ray along with Lee Q Murray, Harry Bobo, Lem Franklin,had their own murderers row for the big boys...
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:48 AM   #1969
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Bob Fitzsimmons and Bob Armstrong


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Jim Driscoll and Charles LeDoux


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Iron Hague and Sammy Langford


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I give you Jack Dempsey; but who is posing with him?
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:02 AM   #1970
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Gorgeous Georges and The Manassa Mauler shake on it

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Old 08-26-2011, 05:11 PM   #1971
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A Big Cat wraps it's paw's

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Old 08-26-2011, 05:18 PM   #1972
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Ez Charles spars Gene Jones in preparation for Jersey Joe

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Old 08-26-2011, 05:21 PM   #1973
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Jack Dempsey working his core

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Old 08-26-2011, 05:24 PM   #1974
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These sort of pictures are priceless - big punching Mac Foster smiling his head off trying to keep old Dempsey and Frazier off of eachother

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All friends again Frazier interupts chat between Jack Dempsey and Sylvester Stallone to greet the old mauler at boxing night

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Dempsey listens intently to Sylvester Stallone at the same boxing evening

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Frazier hanging with his man Dempsey again on another boxing benefit night

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young Roland LaStarza shows off his guns

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LaStarza backs up Utah Banger Rex Layne

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