Mcintyre beats anderson

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Originally Posted by The Lads

I dont know where to start with this post.

Anderson beats Jamie Moore and Pryce at light middle.... where is the evidence he can perform at this weight? Take a shot at the weight? Who has he beaten thats better than macklin (whos getting a euro middle shot soon) or Ljuan whos fought on the world stage. His defence was shocking throughout the first 3 rounds (thats as far as Ive got so far), punches were going straight through his guard. Ali outboxed him in his back yard, so quite how Jamie and Bradley are being disregarded is beyond me.

As for the magee part - are you mad, or just taking the piss. Magee was in his prime when he fought Hatton. When he fought Anderson he'd been hospitalised with 2 broken legs, told he'd never box again, had bloody ages out of the ring and was clearly, without question, a shadow of his former self. he had no movement at all, his counter punching had long lost its timing. All Eamon, (who is possibly the toughest and scariest man Ive ever met) had left was his heart and determination. You know your boxing, and should know your light welters / welters so Im doubly surprised you made that statement.

Anderson will be back at Welter IMO, maybe a change in his promotional camp is needed as the McIntyre fight seemed a pointless excercise so close to going through a helluva tough fight with Jones.

If Anderson is struggling to make Welterweight and he has to move up then I strongly fancy him against both Pryce and Moore. I have had to look at both guys closely over the years for obvious reasons you might easily guess and certain things are clear that they can both be knocked out and Anderson has been in with better fighters than both of these guys. Yes he lost to Ali Nuumbembee and now McIntyre but he has also been in with the gifted Okine and he has not been stopped. Furthermore Ando has gotten up of the canvas and won which shows he is not a front runner. Moore and Pryce are good by domestic standards but are they better than Ando I don't think so. All 3 at their best my money is on Ando.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Originally Posted by Olu G. Rotimi

If Anderson is struggling to make Welterweight and he has to move up then I strongly fancy him against both Pryce and Moore. I have had to look at both guys closely over the years for obvious reasons you might easily guess and certain things are clear that they can both be knocked out and Anderson has been in with better fighters than both of these guys. Yes he lost to Ali Nuumbembee and now McIntyre but he has also been in with the gifted Okine and he has not been stopped. Furthermore Ando has gotten up of the canvas and won which shows he is not a front runner. Moore and Pryce are good by domestic standards but are they better than Ando I don't think so. All 3 at their best my money is on Ando.

Exactly. Okine is Andos best win IMO. Better than Magee or Mutley.

As for Moore, if Scott Dixon can stop him then Anderson certainly can.

[STEVE WOOD]

Dear Mad Jocks ,

If Kevin Anderson is to change weight then he should moved down to light welter and not up to light middleweight. To suggest he would have even a sniff of a chance against Jamie Moore is madness.

What he needs to do is prepare 8 - 10 weeks for a Championship fight

Regards,

STEVE WOOD

PS. Dunky - For the record Jamie fell over with exhaustion against Scott , it was not the punches

[The Lads]

Originally Posted by Olu G. Rotimi

If Anderson is struggling to make Welterweight and he has to move up then I strongly fancy him against both Pryce and Moore. I have had to look at both guys closely over the years for obvious reasons you might easily guess and certain things are clear that they can both be knocked out and Anderson has been in with better fighters than both of these guys. Yes he lost to Ali Nuumbembee and now McIntyre but he has also been in with the gifted Okine and he has not been stopped. Furthermore Ando has gotten up of the canvas and won which shows he is not a front runner. Moore and Pryce are good by domestic standards but are they better than Ando I don't think so. All 3 at their best my money is on Ando.

OK Olu. When has jamie been knocked out? Agsinst Dixon (have you seen this fight) he blew himself out through inexperience. Against Duran he couldnt get up, physically couldnt, due to a hip (was it?) injury.

"furthermore ando has gotten up off the canvas and doesnt need to be a front runner" - He got up off the canvas last week and couldnt get himself back into it, at all. Also, Jamies 3rd fight with jones is possibly one of the best comebacks in recent years.

You cant discount the fact Anderson was beaten on home turf against Ali and Kevin Mcintyre (ffs) by saying "oh but he's been in with Okinke" - whos good but nowhere near great, infact whats happened to him... oh, nothing.

How can a defeat at welterweight against an average domestic fighter all of a sudden make people think you can beat a top 15 world ranked light middleweight?

This thread is crazy.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

As for Moore, if Scott Dixon can stop him then Anderson certainly can.

Dunky that was a newbie comment.... you should be ashamed of yourself.

[brown bomber]

Olu how do you think your man would go on Vs Anderson and Moore?

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Originally Posted by The Lads

OK Olu. When has jamie been knocked out? Agsinst Dixon (have you seen this fight) he blew himself out through inexperience. Against Duran he couldnt get up, physically couldnt, due to a hip (was it?) injury.

"furthermore ando has gotten up off the canvas and doesnt need to be a front runner" - He got up off the canvas last week and couldnt get himself back into it, at all. Also, Jamies 3rd fight with jones is possibly one of the best comebacks in recent years.

You cant discount the fact Anderson was beaten on home turf against Ali and Kevin Mcintyre (ffs) by saying "oh but he's been in with Okinke" - whos good but nowhere near great, infact whats happened to him... oh, nothing.

How can a defeat at welterweight against an average domestic fighter all of a sudden make people think you can beat a top 15 world ranked light middleweight?

This thread is crazy.

Don't make excuses for Jamie Moore's defeats after all you don't make excuses for his victories.

Duran beat him up simply because he is a better fighter. It amazes how some of you get carried away with domestic fighters who are popular like Moore whereas even his victories over Macklin and Facey indicate severe technical limitations which get exposed in higher class. I have been watching Anderson closely and I see something there certainly at domestic and international level. Also Anderson has guts. A lesser fighter would have quit against McIntyre he did not, he got up of the floor against Muttley and stayed the course with Okine and Nuumbembee. He is not a protected fighter and has something about him.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

Olu how do you think your man would go on Vs Anderson and Moore?

Frank Maloney Jamie Moore's promoter who happens to promote Ajose as well knows as I do that Ajose would destroy any fighter in Britain between Light Welterweight to Light Middleweight.

This is not about Ajose we are talking about Ando and I know a good fighter when I see one. Ajose being able to beat Ando is not disrespectful to Ando because he would have the guts to get in there unlike other fighters I can mention. One thing is clear they bring them up the right way in Scotland that is for sure.

[ron u.k.]

Originally Posted by Olu G. Rotimi

Frank Maloney Jamie Moore's promoter who happens to promote Ajose as well knows as I do that Ajose would destroy any fighter in Britain between Light Welterweight to Light Middleweight.

This is not about Ajose we are talking about Ando and I know a good fighter when I see one. Ajose being able to beat Ando is not disrespectful to Ando because he would have the guts to get in there unlike other fighters I can mention. One thing is clear they bring them up the right way in Scotland that is for sure.

do i detect a little anti english bias there olu?

[The Lads]

Originally Posted by Olu G. Rotimi

Don't make excuses for Jamie Moore's defeats after all you don't make excuses for his victories.

Duran beat him up simply because he is a better fighter. It amazes how some of you get carried away with domestic fighters who are popular like Moore whereas even his victories over Macklin and Facey indicate severe technical limitations which get exposed in higher class. I have been watching Anderson closely and I see something there certainly at domestic and international level. Also Anderson has guts. A lesser fighter would have quit against McIntyre he did not, he got up of the floor against Muttley and stayed the course with Okine and Nuumbembee. He is not a protected fighter and has something about him.

I dont understand the comment about making excuses for his victories?

His victory over Macklin has been covered by Terry, so no need to go there. If you watch how many shots got through - not many really. He "old manned" macklin big time.

Facey. Are you talking about the first fight? What were the limitations 3 years ago? The second fight? How hard is it to motivate yourself to fight a domestic fighter you've beaten 3 years ago, add the fact you've been told you've got a euro title shot 6 weeks after and your minds-a-wonderin.

Moore had a serious hip injury against Duran, who I believe he would beat hands down if he was fit.

You say exposed at international class? He beat Jones twice, and was way ahead when DQ'd the 2nd time, yet Jones went close with Picirrillo whos fighting for the WBC title, or eliminator no? So your logic doesnt work.

As for Ajose Ando / Moore. I actualy like Ajose, although I sometimes dont want to as Im sure you're fairly close to him in some way and I find your dismissive attitude towards other fighters such as Hatton and Jamie etc... really quite arrogant. To say Ajose would beat Jamie and Ricky with ease is laughable, especially when he couldnt put Gary Reid away(although I gave him benefit of the doubt over the new weight in that one). Also, your main point for Ando are "Isee something there, and he has guts" - errrrr....

[brown bomber]

Olu- poor form.... No way would Ajose beat Moore. Ajose is good- I give him his dues and props to you for coming on here promoting your fighter but you underrate Moore massively.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

Olu- poor form.... No way would Ajose beat Moore. Ajose is good- I give him his dues and props to you for coming on here promoting your fighter but you underrate Moore massively.

I dont underrate Moore at all. I have seen a lot of him and live as well. He is in for a rude awakening when he ventures into international class.

I am not anti-English at all. Though I have noted that some English fighters do get heavily protected. I give Moore credit for his victory over Macklin who in my opinion fought a technically poor fight. Moore would always lose to Duran who is a better fighter.

As for Ajose I don't really want to discuss him and Moore because Frank would not allow it because all of us on the inside know exactly what would happen.

The real irony is that some of you don't really know just how good Ajose is and will be shocked when he gets in there with a genuine beast and see what he does to such a fighter.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

Dunky that was a newbie comment.... you should be ashamed of yourself.

well jeff, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. If people are going to drege up Andos two L's as a way of saying Moore would hammer him, then I will use their own arguments against them.

I dont look too deeply into losses, defeats happen. Its a tough tough sport. But for people who do look too deeply into defeats? As I say, then you got to adapt to the argument & bring up the L's like they do. & wether guys like Steve Wood admit it or not, Scott Dixon stopped Jamie Moore inside the distance,, & Ando on his day is a much better all round fighter than Dixon. & thats not taking away from Dixon, cos he was a good fighter who sadly was too vulnerable to body shots to progress to european & world level in the sport. The boy had bags of talent though. As Jamie Moore found out

[Dunky McCafferty]

Originally Posted by Olu G. Rotimi

Frank Maloney Jamie Moore's promoter who happens to promote Ajose as well knows as I do that Ajose would destroy any fighter in Britain between Light Welterweight to Light Middleweight.

This is not about Ajose we are talking about Ando and I know a good fighter when I see one. Ajose being able to beat Ando is not disrespectful to Ando because he would have the guts to get in there unlike other fighters I can mention. One thing is clear they bring them up the right way in Scotland that is for sure.

No worries Olu if you think Ajose would beat Ando. I remember you me & my man Topdog argued about who would win when you first arrived, but time has moved on now & Oluseguns record is looking better & better as some of Ajoses victims have went onto claim some great scalps, hes still unbeaten & no-one domestically wants to fight him, & hes closing in on making himself a mandatory challenger for the most prestigious World title also.

When you look at it that way, its a no-brainer that Olusegun would clean up domestically between jnr welter & light middle. All the wailing & gnashing of teeth going on is because some of the posters are biased towards their own favourite english fighters. & before anyone calls me biased toward the scottish fighters, I have just admitted that I dont see any scottish fighter beating Olusegun now, & thats from a guy who used to argue that they could. & when a biased git like me admits a scottish fighter wont beat Olusegun, you should take that as an early warning of whats to come if any of the english lads dare step in with Ajose Olusegun in the near future.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Olu G. Rotimi

As for Ajose I don't really want to discuss him and Moore because Frank would not allow it because all of us on the inside know exactly what would happen.

The real irony is that some of you don't really know just how good Ajose is and will be shocked when he gets in there with a genuine beast and see what he does to such a fighter.

Fair play Olu - I look forward to finding out how good he is but I think Jamie will suprise you.