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Old 10-15-2010, 07:59 PM   #31
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this is probably the reasoning behind why so many people think JMM won. You have a close fight and they think "whoever wins the championship rounds wins" but if you have a close fight after 10 and one guy won 6 rounds with a KD, and the other won 4, then even if the other guy wins the last 2, he still loses the fight.
He just won. All it is.

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marquez was robbed. he clearly won that fight. he was always two steps ahead of pacquiao.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:07 PM   #32
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115-112 jmm

an 8-4 fight
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:15 PM   #33
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"lil floyd"?? you mean the idiot that probably weighed bout 20 pounds more than marquez that night and STILL couldn't knock out the old lightweight??

interesting...
not sayin lil floyd meanin he was a small guy....lil floyd is how his dad references him by....but that's a good thing you don't listen to sr
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:18 PM   #34
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That's 'conventional wisdom'. It's also 'bullshit'.

In modern scoring the judges hand in their scorecards at the end of every round, so they all count the same.
nicely put.....winning the "championship rounds" is still 10-9.....same score as any other round
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:27 PM   #35
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Round 01 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 02 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 03 - 10-8 Pacquiao
Round 04 - 10-9 Pacquaio
Round 05 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 06 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 07 - 10-9 Pacquaio
Round 08 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 09 - 10-9 Pacquaio
Round 10 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 11 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 12 - 10-9 Marquez

114-113 Pacquaio
My final looked this way the first time watching it. 2nd time I had PAC up 2 rounds.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:28 PM   #36
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Based on the video I believe even Pacman new he lost the fight. they hadnt even finished announcing the winner and he was already congratulating JMM with a face of defeat, then he hears his name and has the most surprised looked on his face.
Pac knew he loss ,I don't care who agrees.

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Old 10-15-2010, 08:29 PM   #37
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marquez was robbed. he clearly won that fight. he was always two steps ahead of pacquiao. pacquiao boxed very well though. his best performance ever.
Find a new sport to watch if you can't even tell a robbery from a close, competitive fight. I have no problems if some feel Marquez edged PAC or vice versa. But calling that a robbery is only making yourself look like a clown. PAC won...but JMM made a good account of himself in a losing effort.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:32 PM   #38
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You gave the Championship rounds to Marquez which is odd because if its close and whoever win the Championship rounds wins the fight.
It's all about who wins more rounds....usually if you are a challenger to the champion "THEY SAY"....give the benefit of the doubt to the champ b/c the challenger has to TAKE the title convingingly. But that fights are scored round by round. PAC won the fight based on getting more KD's and winning enough rounds to take the "W". That's why PAC is P4P #1...he hasn't lost since the EM fight years ago.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:36 PM   #39
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You gave the Championship rounds to Marquez which is odd because if its close and whoever win the Championship rounds wins the fight.
So what if Marquez took the final two, I had him losing 6 of the first 10 and he was knocked in one of those rounds he lost. All rounds are scored under the same criteria and winning the final two rounds of a twelve round fight doesn't negate what transpired in the previous ten, nor are fighters automatically awarded bonus point just by winning the "championship rounds." Marquez winning rounds eleven and twelve is no more significant than him winning rounds five and six.

For the record, I won't argue with a close points win for Marquez. There were a few rounds that could have went either way. But to suggest Pac won via robbery or unfairly (not directed towards you in particular) is inaccurate. This was a good, close fight with no clear cut winner.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:08 PM   #40
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Pac knew he loss ,I don't care who agrees.

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lol 30 seconds more into the end of the 3rd round and piss drinker would of went to sleep....he grabbed the rope for dear life and the bell saved him...then he was so dazed he didn't know where the f he was goin...bayless had to redirect him
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:25 PM   #41
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Pac's problem against JMM and Morales was him constantly circling to his left instead of moving to his right . It was a pretty simple technical mistake that made those fights a lot harder then they needed to be. Roach has finally gotten Pac to use the ring better and move his opponents into his power shot.

oh and I had Pac winning this by 1 round the last time I scored it. People who claim Marquez was robbed are watching with blinders on. Remove your bias and score the fight properly.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:35 PM   #42
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Everybody knows Juan Manuel Marquez deserved the nod.
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:43 PM   #43
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115-112 Pac

all day long
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jmm should have won, but if someone wants to say pac by a point, i can see how it happens....but pac by 3, no f'ing way
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:58 PM   #44
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I had Pac barely edging out the win. Really close, awesome fight though.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:08 AM   #45
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great fight. i scored it for pac but i have no problem if someone gave it to jmm. they had both case. that said, it's far from robbery, like some posters here trying to imply.
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