K2 and the contracts offered to various fighters......

[rushman]

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[BoxingFanNo1]

Originally Posted by rushman

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Actually I'm presenting facts about Klitschko's negotiating tactics, I suppose all 11 fighters are liars, fools, cowards?

You'll have to do better than that.

[LukeO]

Good fucking grief.

This forum is full of the most retarded pieces of shit who follow the sport of boxing.

[BoxingFanNo1]

Originally Posted by LukeO

Good fucking grief.

This forum is full of the most retarded pieces of shit who follow the sport of boxing.

Cheers mate.

I've presented facts, asked for discussion, you call me a retard.

Fuck you too.

[Kid Cuba]

Out of curiosity is this a new thing or have they been doing this for long?

[BoxingFanNo1]

Originally Posted by Kid Cuba

Out of curiosity is this a new thing or have they been doing this for long?

The Byrd statement goes back to 2000.

[rushman]

Originally Posted by BoxingFanNo1

Actually I'm presenting facts about Klitschko's negotiating tactics, I suppose all 11 fighters are liars, fools, cowards?

You'll have to do better than that.

I'm sorry, did the article I link to say anything about liars, fools or cowards?

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[BoxingFanNo1]

Originally Posted by rushman

I'm sorry, did the article I link to say anything about liars, fools or cowards?

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Yes but I've seen the level of your nut hugging in other threads, don't contaminate this one with your deceit, try arguing facts eh?

[Serenata]

Originally Posted by BoxingFanNo1

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An unbiased russian boxing site...

The media in russia still want´s the people to believe that the Klitschkos are ducking Povetkin

Great source of yours...

[Serenata]

Originally Posted by BoxingFanNo1

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I've presented facts...

No you don´t.

[Flaco_1]

Originally Posted by BoxingFanNo1

Posted this elsewhere, guess now's a good time to expand on it a little.
Below is a list of boxers who have had trouble negotiating with the Klitschkos:

Tua - "Lowball offer"
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Toney - "Chump Change"
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Dimitrenko - "Mutual benificial terms, not those being offered by K2"
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Adamek - "The Klitschko brothers offer their opponents little money. If they want to fight me and offer the right amount of money, I will fight them."
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Lennox Lewis -
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Lewis: At one time, we tried to make this fight and his promoter was lying to the Klitschko brothers and overpriced himself trying to get extra money. I feel good and confident about the fight and I am ready to go.

Maybe they learned from an old promoter eh?

Mormeck - asking for "too much money" -
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Haye - "contract an utter joke"
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Povetkin - "Slave Contract"
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Valuev - "Conditions which were offered by Vitali which didn't satisfy my promoters or me"
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Chisora - signing a 3 fight deal he was "told to keep silent about"
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Byrd - "This is crazy"
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So are they cowards? Should they be grateful? Are they fools for passing up a great opportunity?
Or are they looking at the K2 contracts and thinking "Is this a joke?".

Discuss.

*Edited to add Chris Byrd.

Wow, this whole time I thought the "top" Heavyweights were genually afraid to fight the Klitschkos.

Now I find out that they try to fuck everyone over with loaded contracts.

I suppose they will soon add a "we get to have a three-way with your mother while pouring sugar down your gas tank" clause.

[rushman]

Originally Posted by BoxingFanNo1

Yes but I've seen the level of your nut hugging in other threads, don't contaminate this one with your deceit, try arguing facts eh?

Well, if you want to be strictly fair...

how about a comparison of complaints about Klit contracts with the contracts of other promoters?

how about a comparison of terms in general?

Do you really think you would end up convincing anyone that the Klits are worse than Don King, or even Golden Boy? Actually, the question would become: which of the big promoters are the Klits demonstrably worse than?

[Serenata]

He seems to be from the british isles. Anything to discredit the Klitschkos

[clyde]

Originally Posted by rushman

Well, if you want to be strictly fair...

how about a comparison of complaints about Klit contracts with the contracts of other promoters?

how about a comparison of terms in general?

Do you really think you would end up convincing anyone that the Klits are worse than Don King, or even Golden Boy? Actually, the question would become: which of the big promoters are the Klits demonstrably worse than?

Do your own homework if you can't answer the charges with facts of your own.


Have you noticed how many times Haye has had to rematch Valuev?

[Serenata]

Originally Posted by clyde

Do your own homework if you can't answer the charges with facts of your own.


Have you noticed how many times Haye has had to rematch Valuev?

Valuev had the option but didn´t take it