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Old 11-03-2007, 10:48 PM   #16
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Default Re: Hopkins can not beat Calzaghe

I will say this Hopkins is the master of getting people to fight his fight and Joe's workrate will drop against him.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:49 PM   #17
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At this stage, Calzaghe is just far too active and unconventional for Hopkins. I'd expect Joe to win an tough yet clear decision.

Calzaghe 116-112 Hopkins
Agreed. Hop has absolutely no chance at this stage. I have no desire to see that fight.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:49 PM   #18
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Thats bullshit,Joe has no chance against Hopkins.Kessler wobbled Joe and Joe had to resort to hitting behind the head to stop Kessler's momentum.

Benard would rough Joe up and even knock him out
I love the old man (obviously), but if you think he'll KO Calzaghe, I've got to wonder if you've seen him fight in the last five years.

The only way Hopkins beats Calzaghe is if he can outslick him, and its hard to see that happening. Hard but not impossible. Make him a 3 to 1 dog and I'd hop on board.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:50 PM   #19
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i think its fair comment that not many people out there can beat him now

Pavlik-seems too much a one paced fighter, going in straight lines
Hopkins-volume from Calzaghe would win him this
Winky-a level below JC
Taylor-dont think Taylor would outbox him, although id like to see that fight
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:56 PM   #20
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I agree, calzaghe is still too fast, and can throw 1000 punches without even looking gassed.
Yes he can but hopkins isnt the kind of fighter who gets hit very often..

Hopkins is boring as batshit but would still find a way to beat calzaghe in a boring 12rnd ud.

But seeing calzaghe needs hopkins on his resume and hopkins pretty much dont need shit off calzaghe as his legacy as a modern day great is confirmed its going to take a us based bout with hopkins getting more money than calzaghe for this bout to eventuate.

B-hop has too big of a ego to let some1 like joe calzaghe and his promotional team call the shots..

I honestly think it would have to be a 60/40 going to b-hop in the money with him also getting full promotional rights through golden boy promotions..

Cant see Frank THE GRUB ****** letting that happen so no fight people.

Bring on Pavlik.

You know he aint got no ego or any hidden agendas so its the perfect fight for joe.

Would be a much entertaining bout aswell.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:57 PM   #21
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I will say this Hopkins is the master of getting people to fight his fight and Joe's workrate will drop against him.
True, and Hopkins still has some of the best defensive head movement left in the game. I don't see the old man getting worked by the jab the way Kessler did tonight. I do see him having problems dealing with Joe's footspeed an ability to dart in and out. Hopkins needs a stationary target these days. Calzaghe is anything but stationary.

But just the fact that Calzaghe can't KO Hopkins means the old fart has a shot at a decision.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:59 PM   #22
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I will say this Hopkins is the master of getting people to fight his fight and Joe's workrate will drop against him.
True, but even then, the lower punch output will be enough to win for Calzaghe. It'll be boring as ****, but Calzaghe will win, I'm 100% confident about that.

I'm confident that Hopkins will continue to duck his biggest rival by miles, though.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:00 PM   #23
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Cal is good for sure but still is very wild with punches...he threw a large number of wild hooks and a lot of pitty pat shots with Kessler who just got overwhelmed....B-Hop would have none of that.
Yeah I noticed there were alot of times when Calzaghe was off balance after throwing shots. Kessler was usually out of range at this point because he backed up to avoid the punch that missed and Calzaghe was able to get back on track before Kessler could do anything about it.

It would take a skilled fighter to do it, but Calzaghe could be open for a nasty counter while hes off balance and it would be a good chance of him getting knocked down while off balance.

I dont think at his age hops will be able to win it, but a younger hops could have or maybe like a 168 james toney, but these days, if he fights like he did tonight, there isnt anyone I would pick over Calfaggi
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:01 PM   #24
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Don't think so pal. I give Calzaghe all the respect in the world, but Hopkins is a whole different bread than Kessler. He's a Philly fighter, and he'll be able to handle a guy like Calzaghe.
How?
he cant win on points and cant KO him
A few years ago he might have been able to beat him but I dont see it now.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:01 PM   #25
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I will say this Hopkins is the master of getting people to fight his fight and Joe's workrate will drop against him.
Exactly, this is why I say u can't count B-hop out. He makes people change their fight plans. He's the best at it.

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Old 11-03-2007, 11:05 PM   #26
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Calzaghe is now ready for Lucian Bute...
You will post that 1 million times ? Calzaghe just schooled a guy who does everything better than Bute. Bute's belt means nothing, he is just another guy in the top 10...
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:10 PM   #27
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Just thinking about it, I'd back Kessler to beat hopkins too. Once again, too active, although it would be much closer because of the styles involved.

But Calzaghe/Hopkins would be easy to pick.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:18 PM   #28
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Hopkins has little chance of outscoring Calazghe now. Calazaghe is a better boxer and is younger and would have beaten Hopkins in his prime which he is not at now. They would both make a few quid though out of a match up.

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Old 11-03-2007, 11:19 PM   #29
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Calzaghe would knock him out and end his career.
Dude, calm down! Remember that Bernard has never dominated, let alone knocked out.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:20 PM   #30
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Hopkins can beat Calzaghe

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Bullshit


Joe just dug deep and beat the terminator
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