Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days...

Bobby Sinn · 10-27-2010, 05:42 AM

Will throw in some little snippits from old fight mags, just to give an idea of how things have changed over the years....

This is a beauty to start..

AUSTRALIAN RING DIGEST JULY 1954.
Charlie Johnson, Veteran American fight manager, believes in doing things in pairs. Not satisfied with one World champion, Charlie has to have two, and both active at the same time. He handles both Archie Moore and Sandy Saddler. This must constitute some sort of a record for a manager to have two World champions in the same period.

Although Henry Armstrong's manager had three World champions at the one time, the were all rolled into one "Hammerin' Hank".....

TCboxa · 10-27-2010, 05:55 AM

These were the days when World titles actually meant something and could not be obtained by vacant title missmatched bouts or with ratings that have been influenced or corrupted. These were the days when Warrior fought Warrior and not only for the title but most of all for bragging rights, in those days your name often meant alot more to you than money as that was the price of ones worth.

These days its not uncommon to have a gym/trainer with multiple so called world champions and this is due to the amount of belts on offer that allow one to call himself WORLD CHAMPION!, the IBO and WBF are fine examples, and the stakes appear to be much higher these days than in the older days because fans are not the wiser as they were back then, they buy this sht up like its the next best thing and all we get in return is guys like Danny Green selling us so called World Title fights that are not worth a pinch of sht, have no mandatory title defences and the organisation is a sham.

I wish we had the old days of boxing return, blokes like Mick Canavan etc, they did the sport some justice and evolved it in a positive way.

Bobby Sinn · 10-27-2010, 06:05 AM

....then there's guys like Johnny Wheeler.... 75 pro bouts and walked with his head high after winning the Vic Feather title.

Bobby Sinn · 10-27-2010, 07:36 AM

The record of an Aussie legend.. in part.

SID GODFREY... 1917 vs..

JAN 29. Wave Gieke W 20
FEB 10. Jimmy Hill L 20
FEB 17. Bert Spargo KO by 14
MAR 9. Wave Gieke L 20
MAR 16. Frank Thorn KO 13
MAR 30. Frank Thorn KO 11
APR 13. Wave Gieke KO 15
MAY 30. Tommy Ryan L 20
JUN 6. Wave Gieke KO 16
JUL 7. Vince Blackburn L 20
AUG 21. George Taylor W 20
SEP 9. Jack Janeese KO 16
OCT 8. Vince Blackburn W 20
NOV 30. Sandy McVea KO 11
DEC 20. Vince Blackburn D 20

boxoncottonon · 10-27-2010, 08:11 AM

****ing insane.....20 rounds.....talk about last man standing.

boxoncottonon · 10-27-2010, 08:11 AM

I remember the 15 round fights being epics....

slip&counter · 10-27-2010, 10:38 AM

Good stuff.

The sport has definitely regressed in a lot of ways.

teke · 10-27-2010, 11:25 AM

You remember these days Bobby?

Bobby Sinn · 10-27-2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teke

You remember these days Bobby?

I dont remember these days, and I have forgotten about those days...

Rodin · 10-28-2010, 01:14 AM

I think the iconic statement from SRR after his two FOTY in '57 & '58 against the "Upstate onion farmer" explained his opinion about those days.

Carmen; "I could have gone another 15 rounds"

Sugar Ray; "Well he wouldn't have been doing them with me"

COULDHAVEBEEN · 10-28-2010, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Sinn

The record of an Aussie legend.. in part.

SID GODFREY... 1917 vs..

JAN 29. Wave Gieke W 20
FEB 10. Jimmy Hill L 20
FEB 17. Bert Spargo KO by 14
MAR 9. Wave Gieke L 20
MAR 16. Frank Thorn KO 13
MAR 30. Frank Thorn KO 11
APR 13. Wave Gieke KO 15
MAY 30. Tommy Ryan L 20
JUN 6. Wave Gieke KO 16
JUL 7. Vince Blackburn L 20
AUG 21. George Taylor W 20
SEP 9. Jack Janeese KO 16
OCT 8. Vince Blackburn W 20
NOV 30. Sandy McVea KO 11
DEC 20. Vince Blackburn D 20

256 rounds in 313 days!

(many guys never fight that many in their entire career)

Bobby Sinn · 10-28-2010, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COULDHAVEBEEN

256 rounds in 313 days!

(many guys never fight that many in their entire career)

Not a bad journey, 300 scheduled rounds.. Lucky he stopped few early!!!

Bobby Sinn · 10-28-2010, 06:35 AM

This is a pisser...

Australian Ring Digest. DEC. 1950.

"Are You An Expert???"... The heading for a page of 20 trivia questions...

Question 1. 'Name the Lightheavyweight Champion of the World?'

FFS.... You'd need to be a freak to name all 15 of them today!!!

COULDHAVEBEEN · 10-31-2010, 07:59 PM

Here's a list of heavyweights from the 1970's with their respective records at the time of a very strange happening:

1/ Charley Polite 15-31-3.
2/ Boone Kirkman 32-5-0.
3/ Alonzo Johnson 22-19-0 (and retired for 3 years).
4/ Terry Daniels 34-18-1.
5/ Jerry Judge 15-4-1.

What was this very strange happening?

(no cheating with BoxRec etc)

young griffo · 11-01-2010, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COULDHAVEBEEN

Here's a list of heavyweights from the 1970's with their respective records at the time of a very strange happening:

1/ Charley Polite 15-31-3.
2/ Boone Kirkman 32-5-0.
3/ Alonzo Johnson 22-19-0 (and retired for 3 years).
4/ Terry Daniels 34-18-1.
5/ Jerry Judge 15-4-1.

What was this very strange happening?

(no cheating with BoxRec etc)

Did they all fight George Foreman on the same night???

10-27-2010, 05:42 AM	#1
Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mundine's undercard Posts: 2,701 vCash: 500	Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... Will throw in some little snippits from old fight mags, just to give an idea of how things have changed over the years.... This is a beauty to start.. AUSTRALIAN RING DIGEST JULY 1954. Charlie Johnson, Veteran American fight manager, believes in doing things in pairs. Not satisfied with one World champion, Charlie has to have two, and both active at the same time. He handles both Archie Moore and Sandy Saddler. This must constitute some sort of a record for a manager to have two World champions in the same period. Although Henry Armstrong's manager had three World champions at the one time, the were all rolled into one "Hammerin' Hank".....
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10-27-2010, 05:55 AM	#2
TCboxa Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: OLYMPUS Posts: 9,212 vCash: 300	Re: Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... These were the days when World titles actually meant something and could not be obtained by vacant title missmatched bouts or with ratings that have been influenced or corrupted. These were the days when Warrior fought Warrior and not only for the title but most of all for bragging rights, in those days your name often meant alot more to you than money as that was the price of ones worth. These days its not uncommon to have a gym/trainer with multiple so called world champions and this is due to the amount of belts on offer that allow one to call himself WORLD CHAMPION!, the IBO and WBF are fine examples, and the stakes appear to be much higher these days than in the older days because fans are not the wiser as they were back then, they buy this sht up like its the next best thing and all we get in return is guys like Danny Green selling us so called World Title fights that are not worth a pinch of sht, have no mandatory title defences and the organisation is a sham. I wish we had the old days of boxing return, blokes like Mick Canavan etc, they did the sport some justice and evolved it in a positive way.
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Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mundine's undercard Posts: 2,701 vCash: 500	Re: Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... ....then there's guys like Johnny Wheeler.... 75 pro bouts and walked with his head high after winning the Vic Feather title.
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Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mundine's undercard Posts: 2,701 vCash: 500	Re: Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... The record of an Aussie legend.. in part. SID GODFREY... 1917 vs.. JAN 29. Wave Gieke W 20 FEB 10. Jimmy Hill L 20 FEB 17. Bert Spargo KO by 14 MAR 9. Wave Gieke L 20 MAR 16. Frank Thorn KO 13 MAR 30. Frank Thorn KO 11 APR 13. Wave Gieke KO 15 MAY 30. Tommy Ryan L 20 JUN 6. Wave Gieke KO 16 JUL 7. Vince Blackburn L 20 AUG 21. George Taylor W 20 SEP 9. Jack Janeese KO 16 OCT 8. Vince Blackburn W 20 NOV 30. Sandy McVea KO 11 DEC 20. Vince Blackburn D 20
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boxoncottonon Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the heart of the Saints... Posts: 2,312 vCash: 850	Re: Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... ****ing insane.....20 rounds.....talk about last man standing.
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Rodin Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,269 vCash: 1000	20 rounds. 15 s 'nuff I think the iconic statement from SRR after his two FOTY in '57 & '58 against the "Upstate onion farmer" explained his opinion about those days. Carmen; "I could have gone another 15 rounds" Sugar Ray; "Well he wouldn't have been doing them with me" Last edited by Rodin; 10-28-2010 at 01:27 AM.
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Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mundine's undercard Posts: 2,701 vCash: 500	Re: Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... This is a pisser... Australian Ring Digest. DEC. 1950. "Are You An Expert???"... The heading for a page of 20 trivia questions... Question 1. 'Name the Lightheavyweight Champion of the World?' FFS.... You'd need to be a freak to name all 15 of them today!!!
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COULDHAVEBEEN Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9,437 vCash: 970	Re: Yep, Yep, Yep.... Those were the days... Here's a list of heavyweights from the 1970's with their respective records at the time of a very strange happening: 1/ Charley Polite 15-31-3. 2/ Boone Kirkman 32-5-0. 3/ Alonzo Johnson 22-19-0 (and retired for 3 years). 4/ Terry Daniels 34-18-1. 5/ Jerry Judge 15-4-1. What was this very strange happening? (no cheating with BoxRec etc)
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