Calzaghe's Old School Training

[lefty]

Originally Posted by Relentless

****inhell how old are you 16?

Haha i'd probably resort to that sort of thing if i had nothing to say aswell.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by enquirer

Relentless,hazetheman is correct in his comments mostly.....

ok mackie shilstone.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by hazetheman

Haha i'd probably resort to that sort of thing if i had nothing to say aswell.

really i am not going to argue anymore, this topic has been done and dusted over 500 times.

atleast know what your talking about.

rdj used to be the man!

[enquirer]

Relentless,now you are acting like a sixteen year old.
His definition of anaerobic is correct,why you cussing,got nothing correct to say?

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by hazetheman

Probably not bad, but not beneficial. There is nothing you can do with weights boxing related that you can't do with bodyweight excercises. Weights target certain areas, you're a boxer so you want your whole bodies strength to be coordinated and balanced.

Like I've said before, some people don't know what they're talking about when it comes to weight training. You're thinking of isolation bodybuilder type lifting, I'm thinking more of full body compound lift routines consisting of full squats, deadlift, pull-ups, dips, bench-press etc.

It's because of people like you (those who don't have a clue) talking this BS that makes everyone think weights are bad.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by enquirer

Relentless,now you are acting like a sixteen year old.
His definition of anaerobic is correct,why you cussing,got nothing correct to say?

you what?

[lefty]

Originally Posted by Relentless

really i am not going to argue anymore, this topic has been done and dusted over 500 times.

atleast know what your talking about.

rdj used to be the man!

Come on now, you don't spark a debate then run off as soon as the other person responds without saying anything, that's abit of a weak move.

[enquirer]

Look folks,some peoples body types benefit with weights and some may not...Its a fact that many atgs never used weights,while many lesser modern boxers use weights and never achieve half of the skills of old school fighters...
Roy jones never used weights up until the ruiz fight and his explosive power and speed was pretty good hey guys?
Genetics also play a big part in what benefits a boxer can get from weight training,or whether he even needs to use weights at all....

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by hazetheman

Come on now, you don't spark a debate then run off as soon as the other person responds without saying anything, that's abit of a weak move.

ok then we will continue when i return.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by enquirer

Look folks,some peoples body types benefit with weights and some may not...Its a fact that many atgs never used weights,while many lesser modern boxers use weights and never achieve half of the skills of old school fighters...
Roy jones never used weights up until the ruiz fight and his explosive power and speed was pretty good hey guys?
Genetics also play a big part in what benefits a boxer can get from weight training,or whether he even needs to use weights at all....

that just sounds so foolish,

i bet guys like fitzsimmons didn't agree with robinson's training routine and thought they were too 'modern'

lesser modern boxers

you think guys like bernard hopkins, floyd mayweather, wladimir klitschko, lennox lewis, evander holyfield are lesser?

[Kolya]

Originally Posted by Relentless

that just sounds so foolish,

i bet guys like fitzsimmons didn't agree with robinson's training routine and thought they were too 'modern'

lesser modern boxers

you think guys like bernard hopkins, floyd mayweather, wladimir klitschko, lennox lewis, evander holyfield are lesser?

Than Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, and Archie Moore? Yes. The only one I wouldn't say is Lennox not being on Joe's level; because he might be.

[lefty]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Like I've said before, some people don't know what they're talking about when it comes to weight training. You're thinking of isolation bodybuilder type lifting, I'm thinking more of full body compound lift routines consisting of full squats, deadlift, pull-ups, dips, bench-press etc.

It's because of people like you (those who don't have a clue) talking this BS that makes everyone think weights are bad.

Pull-ups, dips are bodyweight excercises, Bench press has zero to do with boxing as does squats and deadlifts, that motion that you're fast and powerful at when you do these things has nothing to do with throwing a punch, it's making your muscles remember a motion that you're never gonna use in the ring.

Weights aren't bad, they can help some people compensate for certain weaknesses in terms of strength balance throughout their body, but otherwise they are not beneficial for a boxer. Weights aren't gonna help you if you do them but they won't hurt you either unless you over do them and neglect some of your other helpful training.

[lefty]

Originally Posted by Relentless

ok then we will continue when i return.

Then what are you doing with all these posts saying nothing? Come on, get googling and try to find something boy....... Looking forward to your return

[Rakim]

Originally Posted by hazetheman

Bench press has zero to do with boxing as does squats and deadlifts, that motion that you're fast and powerful at when you do these things has nothing to do with throwing a punch, it's making your muscles remember a motion that you're never gonna use in the ring.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by enquirer

Look folks,some peoples body types benefit with weights and some may not...Its a fact that many atgs never used weights,while many lesser modern boxers use weights and never achieve half of the skills of old school fighters...
Roy jones never used weights up until the ruiz fight and his explosive power and speed was pretty good hey guys?
Genetics also play a big part in what benefits a boxer can get from weight training,or whether he even needs to use weights at all....

This argument makes absolutly no sense at all. Lifting weights can potentially improve strength, endurance and speed if done correctly, it does not affect actual boxing ability. Choosing a boxer and stating his boxing ability based on if he lifts weights or not is stupid.