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Old 11-05-2007, 03:27 PM   #106
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Ross had one amateur fight, which he LOST! Enough said.
Again, boxing ability, nothing to do with lifting weights.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:30 PM   #107
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Ross had one amateur fight, which he LOST! Enough said.
no he never, he had quiet a lot of amateur fights, his friend john the iceman scully posts here, just ask him.

and for your information if you dont know who the iceman is he is a former world title contender who has also sparred greats such as roy jones and james toney, he is now a trainer and ross enamait is the conditioning coach for most of his fighters.
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Case in point, when Emmauel Steward switched W. Klitschko to 6 miles of road work a day, his fight stamina improved drastically.
wrong! are you making this stuff up as you go along?

steward has nothing to do with wladimir klitshcko's conditioning routines, steward helps him with his boxing training, fritz sdunek (wlads old trainer) writes wlads strength and conditioning training drills.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:39 PM   #109
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wrong! are you making this stuff up as you go along?

steward has nothing to do with wladimir klitshcko's conditioning routines, steward helps him with his boxing training, fritz sdunek (wlads old trainer) writes wlads strength and conditioning training drills.
Not making it up!

Emmauel Steward stated this during a recent HBO telecast. Steward also required long runs from Lennox Lewis in preparation for his title fights. Steward believes in the old school methods. There was a post recently with all these quotes from him. Do your home work.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:40 PM   #110
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no he never, he had quiet a lot of amateur fights, his friend john the iceman scully posts here, just ask him.

and for your information if you dont know who the iceman is he is a former world title contender who has also sparred greats such as roy jones and james toney, he is now a trainer and ross enamait is the conditioning coach for most of his fighters.
Ross has stated himself he had just one fight, which he lost. Check it out on his website in the forum section. If he had more, produce the official record!
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:45 PM   #111
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Ross has stated himself he had just one fight, which he lost. Check it out on his website in the forum section. If he had more, produce the official record!
no he never!

ross stated many times he has fought in different weight classes many times, and anyway why would he put himself down like that on his own website?

please post a link, or how about this, i get ross to post here or we can pm iceman and ask him? your call.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:46 PM   #112
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Not making it up!

Emmauel Steward stated this during a recent HBO telecast. Steward also required long runs from Lennox Lewis in preparation for his title fights. Steward believes in the old school methods. There was a post recently with all these quotes from him. Do your home work.
you are so obviously making this up as you go along

post link or STFU!
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:54 PM   #113
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Yeah, so after skimming over the last 7 pages of posts (which mostly contained pointless rambling)... I just got to say your all, right and wrong.
Like I said before, different things work for different people, for better or for worse. Benching might help one boxer more than another, pushups might help one boxer more than the guy benching. There is no exercise that is totally useless for boxing, some just might be more helpful than others. Who is to say?
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:32 PM   #114
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Yeah, so after skimming over the last 7 pages of posts (which mostly contained pointless rambling)... I just got to say your all, right and wrong.
Like I said before, different things work for different people, for better or for worse. Benching might help one boxer more than another, pushups might help one boxer more than the guy benching. There is no exercise that is totally useless for boxing, some just might be more helpful than others. Who is to say?
thats it close the thread!
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:35 PM   #115
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Yeah, so after skimming over the last 7 pages of posts (which mostly contained pointless rambling)... I just got to say your all, right and wrong.
Like I said before, different things work for different people, for better or for worse. Benching might help one boxer more than another, pushups might help one boxer more than the guy benching. There is no exercise that is totally useless for boxing, some just might be more helpful than others. Who is to say?
Weightlifting is relatively useless for boxing. Bodyweight exercises are more functional and applicable and more than provide enough strength and endurance.
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I couldn't be bothered to tell you the same thing over and over and over. Just close the thread.
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Lifting weights correctly for a specific goal can never be a bad thing.

Those that say weights are bad for boxing don't have a clue.
not true what if your training to become weaker or something
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:56 PM   #118
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I know exactly what i'm talking about, there is absolutely no need for any of those excercises, i'm glad you enjoy playing with your weights and getting big and strong but we're talking boxing here, perfecting your technique, timing, co-ordination while shadowboxing or hitting the pads is gonna help your punching power and stamina more than any weights ever will.
if you liftn weights you wil haevea shit load of more time then if you did pushups etc.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:08 PM   #119
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Let's put it this way. If you run 20 miles a day your running is bad for boxing. It would be good if you trained to be a marathon runner. Does that make running bad? No ofcourse not. Let's not get carried away with it. Strength is important, but doing it three or four times a week is ridiculous. Unless your name is Floyd Mayweather acquiring skills should be your number one priority. The good thing is that while you are doing that, strength, muscular endurance, cardiovascular endurance, agility, muscle memory, basically everything you need for boxing, will improve at the same time.

If you lift weights once a week that's fine, you can't do sport specific stuff all the time. Whether it will do good depends on how you do it, but as long as it's in moderation it certainly won't do any harm.

DISCLAIMER: I am not accusing anyone in particular of training like a bodybuilder or a marathon runner.
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Let's put it this way. If you run 20 miles a day your running is bad for boxing. It would be good if you trained to be a marathon runner. Does that make running bad? No ofcourse not. Let's not get carried away with it. Strength is important, but doing it three or four times a week is ridiculous. Unless your name is Floyd Mayweather acquiring skills should be your number one priority. The good thing is that while you are doing that, strength, muscular endurance, cardiovascular endurance, agility, muscle memory, basically everything you need for boxing, will improve at the same time.

If you lift weights once a week that's fine, you can't do sport specific stuff all the time. Whether it will do good depends on how you do it, but as long as it's in moderation it certainly won't do any harm.

DISCLAIMER: I am not accusing anyone in particular of training like a bodybuilder or a marathon runner.
There's no arguing with that post.


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