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Old 11-09-2010, 09:36 PM   #1
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Default Where do you rate Juan Manuel Marquez as an opponent P4P against KT's opponents

My point is. I think Katsidis as an Australian fighter is fighting the toughest 'in form' P4P fight an Australian has fought even surpassing Kostya. (roy jones was in rip form when talking of green)

I went through Kostyas list and though yep Sharmba Mitchell, Ricky Hattno, Zab Judah, all great fighters, but not as great as Juan Manuel Marquez in MY opinion.

your thoughts? and can also bring up other aussie fighters in recent times if you like.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:37 PM   #2
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you may be on to something mate..
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Where do you rate Juan Manuel Marquez as an opponent P4P against KT's opponents

Katsidis has a great resume and JMM adds to it. It could be argued that JMM is on the slide though.....and even then, will Kats get past him?
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: Where do you rate Juan Manuel Marquez as an opponent P4P against KT's opponents

I dont think anyone can say JMM is at his best, But if Kats beats JMM it will still be very impressive and will go a long way to forging the rest of Kats Career.

but as for your question, i agree you may be on to something
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:48 PM   #5
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Katsidis used to spar KT on a regular basis, i wish we could see some of their sparring footage, now that would be something
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:56 PM   #6
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Katsidis used to spar KT on a regular basis, i wish we could see some of their sparring footage, now that would be something
I want to see your past sparing sessions TC, not some has been legend
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:37 PM   #7
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You may indeed be on to something there!

Mijares was #2 P4P no? Which I didn't agree with but we saw what happened there. Did he have alot of lucky fights in a row after his early losses or did his loss to Vic end his motivation???

Judah, again, he showed he aint all that, but again, did KT do that to him? What would Mayweather be like if he was brutally KO'ed early on - knowing you're not invincible has to have some impact.

Hatton - yeah, not the greatest. Had a lot going for him that night, was tough and brought what he needed to, but not the greatest fighter ever.

Marquez though - you cannot argue against his greatness. His resume is amazing and his skill, determination and outright hardness probably do make him the best and Aussie has fought in a long time... if not ever?
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:41 PM   #8
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I want to see your past sparing sessions TC, not some has been legend
just search google mate, plenty of fights on youtube
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:51 PM   #9
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You guys are forgetting when Shannon Taylor fought Shane Mosely. Shane was easily the toughest in form p4p fighter an Australian has fought that i can recall.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:59 PM   #10
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Oh Thanks Francis, re-reading the OP you could also argue that RJJ was P4P no 1 when Glen Kelly met him.
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:15 AM   #11
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Default Re: Where do you rate Juan Manuel Marquez as an opponent P4P against KT's opponents

Happy with the comments and agree on

Shannon Taylor V Shane Mosley

and

Kelly V RJJ

all in all Kats V Marquez since those has to be on par if not greater than an Australian going up against a P4P in form legend.

Thanks for responses !
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:42 AM   #12
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Robbie Peden vs Barrera deserves a mention as well.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:31 AM   #13
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Robbie Peden vs Barrera deserves a mention as well.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:48 AM   #14
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Troy Waters v Terrible Terry Norris?
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:51 AM   #15
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Aussie Joe Bugner - Muhammad Ali
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