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Old 11-28-2010, 04:14 AM   #46
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Dirrell

Given that Froch beat him and beat Abraham fair and square rather than faking a DQ I'd suggest that Carl be ranked higher.

The sooner Dr Shaw-Hi gives Dirrell a dose of something that makes him want to get a day job the better.
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Old 11-28-2010, 05:02 AM   #47
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I dont know, the thing with Froch is that he has over achieved a little with his resume.

I mean, Pascal was a great win, but that was Pascal's fight to lose, and I think most would agree that Pascal would win a rematch. Taylor, again, pretty much schooled Froch, not that you can take anything away from him.

Whether or not he lost the Dirrell fight, the gulf in skill between them was pretty comprehensive, and Dirrell should win any rematch he has with Froch.

Kessler, close fight, fair does, and Abraham, nothing but credit can be given, though one has to remember what Dirrell did to him as well. (Abraham)

Resume wise i guess he is up there, skill/talent wise, I'm not sure. Ward is clearly the better talent...and possibly a win or two behing in terms of resume, but then Ward is younger and less experienced and has really swum with the sharks having been thrown in at the deep end.

Top 20 certainly, perhaps top 15...but any top 10 ranking reflects a rugged over-achiever, rather than a vastly talented pugilist. But there is nothing necessarily wrong with that, its just how you interpret P4P. Personally I elevate talent, and would have Ward ahead of him certainly.
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Old 11-28-2010, 05:04 AM   #48
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Dirrell

Given that Froch beat him and beat Abraham fair and square rather than faking a DQ I'd suggest that Carl be ranked higher.

The sooner Dr Shaw-Hi gives Dirrell a dose of something that makes him want to get a day job the better.
I know i might get shot for this, and the guy is clearly lacks Froch's proffesionalism and warrior instinct.

But Dirrell is a better fighter than Froch.
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Old 11-28-2010, 05:16 AM   #49
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I know i might get shot for this, and the guy is clearly lacks Froch's proffesionalism and warrior instinct.

But Dirrell is a better fighter than Froch.


More aesthetically pleasing maybe. Better fighter / boxer - I think not.
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Old 11-28-2010, 05:34 AM   #50
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he was p4p worthy since he beat taylor. i think he has to be top 15. Since he has mixed in world class competition his opponents have been undefeated, former world champs etc
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